All About The Joy

Sharing Adventures, Generational Differences and the SAG Strike is Over!

November 12, 2023 Carmen Lezeth Suarez Episode 106
All About The Joy
Sharing Adventures, Generational Differences and the SAG Strike is Over!
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In this episode, we express our gratitude to Fran Dresser, the president of SAG AFTRA, for her brilliant leadership during this period and rejoice in the fact that the strike is finally over! We also share updates about our weeks, from Cynthia's bustling schedule at the hospital due to an influx of new COVID and flu cases, to Joy's delightful family visit in East Tennessee.

Here's a sneak peek: Would you dare to jump out of a plane on your 30th birthday or just for fun? Because two of us did. This episode takes you on a whirlwind of emotions as we dig into some of our most extraordinary personal experiences. We cover Cynthia's heart-loving Swimming with the Dolphins quest, Joy's parasailing escapades, Andrea and Carmen's Sky-Diving adventures... But don't worry, we're not all adrenaline junkies here. Rick's fear of water is both funny and touching... and well, we've got our fair share of laugh-out-loud moments as we poke fun at each other's stories and discuss our potential collaborations.

We also take a serious tone, but only for a moment to discuss the differences in how each generation uses the internet. Gen X, Versus Millennials and Gen Z. It's based on a blog post from last week which you can read on my personal website for more information. 

So, join in for a blend of thoughtful discussions sprinkled with a hearty dose of humor and camaraderie on another fun-filled podcast of sheer joy! 

Thank you for stopping by. Please visit our website: All About The Joy and add, like and share. We'd appreciate that greatly. Also, if you want to find us anywhere on social media, please check out the link in bio page.

Music By Geovane Bruno, Moments, 3481
Editing by Team A-J
Host, Carmen Lezeth


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Carmen Lezeth:

Hey everyone, Welcome to All About the Joy. I'm so glad to be here. I'm sorry I'm mid laughing because Cynthia cannot see one of us on screen.

Andrea Nunez:

You have to guess. Which one You'll have to guess, I can't tell you.

Carmen Lezeth:

I don't know, can you see her now? No, oh well, we all know it's Rick.

Andrea Nunez:

I'll see. If there were people in the live stream we could have said we're not going to say until the end of the show.

Carmen Lezeth:

We're going to keep it as a mystery. I don't even know what to do about it. I think we're going to just have to roll with it. Cynthia, Like Andrea said, a you problem Just going to have to use your imagination, Cynthia. Yeah, but wait, here's the thing. People will have to guess who it is. You can't see.

Cynthia Ruiz:

I can hear everybody.

Carmen Lezeth:

Anyway, let me welcome everyone to this show. Of course, cynthia is here with us with her fabulous blowed out hairdo Fabulous, looking Wonderful. Yes, I wanted to also give a shout out to Joy. Thank you for joining us and you're looking perfect and fabulous. Say hello to everyone, girl. Hello everybody. Andrea, so glad you're here. You know I got much love for you. So happy to see you and your hair looks great too. All the ladies looking fabulous, of course, and Rick Costa Got you baby. How you doing.

Rick Costa:

What's up.

Carmen Lezeth:

What's up? So welcome. I first want to start with a few announcements that everybody knows I'm really really excited about, and the SAG After Strike is over, yay. So it's a little tentative, although everyone has come out. Fran Dresser just sent, who is the president of SAG After, sent everyone an email. We've been updated on a pretty daily basis from SAG After. They've been amazing as a negotiating committee but also just keeping us all informed, and it's going to be ratified Hopefully on Friday. It's just so kind of exciting. They really, from what we know, we haven't had the ability to read it yet, but we got what we wanted. So, for the most part, I'm sure there's a lot of negotiation, but the AI part was a really big one.

Carmen Lezeth:

So, 118 days. Shout out to all the actors that were on the picket lines, also to IOTC, all the other unions, wga. I also want to give a shout out to all the other people who are impacted. Again, I cannot stress enough this impacted, you know, all the people who work in the crews caterers, makeup artists, people who do hair and costume design, editors. It impacted restaurants, location scouts. This didn't just impact actors, it impacted so many people. So thank you for everyone who stood with the union and I'm just so excited and everyone's going to get back to work. So, yay, and Rick, you and I can have our show that we want to just talk about Stargate.

Rick Costa:

Finally.

Carmen Lezeth:

Movies now and television, and we've been really trying to not I've been trying to not do it. It has slipped a few times with guests or with people, but Rick, let it out, let it out, can't wait, yeah, so I just wanted to give that announcement. The other thing I wanted to just throw out there I already mentioned Fran Drusher, but I just want to say I know people know her from the nanny, but I am just I love amazing, fabulous people, and who would have thought the actress from the nanny would have become the powerhouse president of SAG AFTRA and then lead us through this? I just find that I just love fabulous, amazing people who stick to their guns and do it their way with their style, so I wanted to give a shout out to her. You know, just amazing. Okay, I just want to see how you guys are doing first before we go into our next thing. How are you guys doing, cynthia? How was your week so far?

Carmen Lezeth:

Yeah and you can't see one of us. So glad you could hear us. That was good. I didn't know that Okay it has been given. Do you want to share what happened this week? That's just, you don't have to.

Cynthia Ruiz:

It's just a stressful week. You know the hospital is crazy and everyone coming in with COVID and flu oh yeah, numbers are going back up. It's been a little crazy at work.

Carmen Lezeth:

I mean, I mean, is it numbers coming back up to like we might be afraid? Again or it's just this is going to be the new normal in the fall, or something.

Cynthia Ruiz:

It's going to be the new normal. It's definitely going to be the new normal, but I mean they're not making the mass mandatory right now, so the numbers aren't that crazy, which is good, but I mean it's going to be just like the flu. Every year you're going to have to, you know, just be precocious.

Carmen Lezeth:

I just went and got another COVID shot. Like I'm kind of, oh, I got the COVID and the flu shot just two days ago. I'm kind of over it, I have to tell you, but I'm going to do it. Yeah, joy, how is your week? How are you doing anything wonderful, joyous or miserable, like Cynthia?

Joy Gouge:

No, so good, Just getting ready, packing, getting ready to fly out to East Tennessee again on Saturday. So why are we going to Tennessee?

Carmen Lezeth:

We why?

Joy Gouge:

are we going?

Carmen Lezeth:

to.

Cynthia Ruiz:

Tennessee.

Joy Gouge:

Well, I'm going back to East Tennessee to visit my family. Oh, are you there for the holidays? Or like early and just going for a week this time, and then I will. We'll be back for Thanksgiving here in Memphis and then I'm flying back the first week of December.

Carmen Lezeth:

Oh, okay, traveling, you're always traveling, by the way. That's what I noticed. Yeah, traveling Queen over here.

Rick Costa:

Yeah.

Carmen Lezeth:

Okay, cool, but you had a great week. Great or good week, it was good. It was good. Good car that don't sound like it was good. But okay, we don't know what, that we don't go. Andrea, I already know some of skip you for now. We're going to do it later, because we already I already know that's gonna be a conversation.

Rick Costa:

It was okay. Work was weird because they're still moving buildings and they still haven't finished. I don't know who's where what building y'all are in and I'm like people call can I talk to? I don't know where he's at right now. So works been very weird and they haven't even shipped most stuff that should be shipped by now. But anyway, and there was some backlash from last week that I did not discuss with you because I didn't want you to get upset about it, but I got thrown into the show. Yeah.

Carmen Lezeth:

I got enough backlash, but I got some good stuff to. I got good backlash.

Rick Costa:

So the funny thing to me was the funny thing to me was so said person was on another person's broadcasts who used to be mortal enemies, now they're best my besties with their clothes and like mind blown. And then the other one said oh, rick Costa, oh I, he's a fraud. I talked to him, to him on absent. I proved he was a fraud. I'm like I never even talked to you in my life. What are you talking about?

Carmen Lezeth:

Yeah, crazy and I think that's about as much as we gonna give that issue. Yeah, I'm done on the show, but you know what it's like. Here's the good news. I got, first of all, some of the most amazing Compliments. I got so many more people who are following the podcast to like. Some of my old school friends were like finally, the real Carmen came out.

Rick Costa:

Sassy Carmen is back.

Carmen Lezeth:

Somebody was like we like this Carmen better than the polished Carmen. One of my clients who was crying Melanie's like yay, tony's like damn. One of my clients was watching this show. I was cracking up because he talked about it. He was like you know what? That's how you have to rally the troops here. I want you to swear, but I got. I Thought it was really good and I think I think one of the things that's really interesting about life is Again and I'm not trying to keep saying this, but when you can actually find the joy in things. You know, and what I realized. I was speaking to someone today who watched the show, who said one of the things that I loved about watching you is that we're so used to seeing the polished Carmen and not that we want to see that person all the time, but it was nice to see that other side of you, you know, and and I was like I can't believe you saying this to me, you know- that, that's, that's the car.

Cynthia Ruiz:

And what with that picture you posted?

Carmen Lezeth:

Oh my god. So yeah, I you know what I say always stay away from the negativity, grab on to the positivity and ignore what you can. Had a moment where I wasn't good at ignoring, but you know that was also on my show, so alright, everyone buckle up, andrea I.

Andrea Nunez:

Always stay away from the negativity. I was like, okay, fine, everybody, crap week. It's been really hard at some work stuff. It's been happening since last Friday. I'm losing sleep, I got like it's just been rough and I'm trying to take care of Everybody's feelings and expectations, which is not. You know, you can't really discuss what happened or not.

Carmen Lezeth:

We cannot discuss. I do know Andrea and I went out to dinner last week and we ate and we talked, and so I I do know what happened and I'm just so sorry I'll put it in this terms it's, it's always difficult when you manage a team of people and and you have to keep lifting people up. It's really hard, especially when your clients upset or whatever, and that's what I'll say. That kind of puts a little button on it. But so I feel for you and I'm just sorry you're still going through it and and yeah, alright, well, we wish you well. Well, hopefully you'll have a little bit of laughter today.

Rick Costa:

My joy right here if you're not up yourself but you got to make everybody else, that's even harder.

Andrea Nunez:

Oh yeah, yeah, that's true.

Carmen Lezeth:

Well, how do you guys deal with that? If you are not feeling great but you have to lift other people up, how do you get yourself there? That's actually an interesting question.

Rick Costa:

Fake it till, I make it.

Carmen Lezeth:

That's fair. Fake it to you, make it Yep.

Cynthia Ruiz:

Cynthia, pretty much the same. You show one side to your team and then you can go to the bathroom and cry your eyes out if you need to.

Andrea Nunez:

Oh, andrea um, I mean, yeah, a version of that, for sure, you know you have to Be polished right, put on the face and like, put that out there for everybody. But for me I have to have someone like you or somebody else that I can then go and be like you know you got. You have to have that outlet, you know joy.

Carmen Lezeth:

How do you deal with it?

Joy Gouge:

I'm the same way you know, because you just have to compartmentalize it and Move on and focus on your team and not focus on yourself, which is hard, yeah, it's really hard sometimes.

Carmen Lezeth:

Yeah, I don't know if I do any of that. I Don't know, I don't know what you do. Well, I mean, I think that's why my client was so funny, because he was just like I want you to swear more, like I'm not gonna swear, but it's really hard for me to hide when I'm disappointed in people, or you know, look at, most of times people call me to fire people or, you know, things are a disaster. That's when people want to hire me, right, and then I have the maintenance clients that I keep on, but what ends up happening is I never end up firing most people because it's usually Not their fault. It's usually the person who hired me setting up unrealistic, realistic expectations or whatever it is.

Carmen Lezeth:

And I think one of the things I'm really good at and I don't mean this, to go back to last week's show, I don't have a problem at confrontation and I've learned how to Look it, and this is a stylistic thing. This is not something I recommend to anyone else, because I've been burnt so many times too as I went through this process. I think we just all have different styles, but when I'm not feeling up or whatever, is probably when I shine most. And, andrea, I was telling you at dinner. I was telling you at dinner the other night, like I think I have been doing Oscar worthy like Performances in front of my clients. Just I feel like so many times I'm like just acting through it all. So maybe that's how I handle it.

Carmen Lezeth:

But I I don't have a problem telling people exactly what I think is. I guess I Think you all saw a version of that. But just even in in regular life, and when I'm tired, I tell people I got time for this, I'm tired, let's talk about this tomorrow at four o'clock. That's my opening on my calendar, like and I'm very blunt about it, you know or I'll tell people to stop texting me, like I told one team the other day no more texting me after six. We're just not, I'm not answering it, you're all on silent. So if there's an emergency called a police, fire department or your boss, you know, to me, no art, don't bother me, I'm not paying that much.

Andrea Nunez:

Yeah, slow and deliberate and make sure that whatever I say is what I actually want to say. So I try to really take a beat and Let my emotions calm down so that I can deal with the situation in the way that I actually want to, versus being like super reactive.

Carmen Lezeth:

I'm super reactive, yeah, super no, but even that work, I just yeah, I don't. It's not that I don't care, I Think there's. I mean, I know what you're saying, you know, yeah, I totally get that, but I all this is, it's just a different style. I think I also really do trust my initial gut and emotional instinct. You know, I was talking to Ted today, ted Hicks, who we love, whatever and I was asking him how do you deal with?

Carmen Lezeth:

You know, like, let's be honest, ted Hicks has a pristine image, like on the internet, like everybody loves to, and I was like how do you deal, though, with people or when things erupt, or whatever? And he was like I don't. And I was like, yeah, okay, okay. But he's like, no, no, carmen, I I don't Walk away from it, I ignore it, I would ever. And I was like, see, that's a whole other level of skill I will never have, you know, because I think there's a level of patience there or like I Don't know what it is, but at some point people are gonna piss me off enough and I'm gonna say something.

Carmen Lezeth:

Oh yeah mute and sneeze. That was so good, because then it makes it easier for me.

Cynthia Ruiz:

I was like Andrea I.

Rick Costa:

Love how you.

Carmen Lezeth:

I brought up 10 Hicks. I did that for a reason because I thought it'd be an easy way segue. So Ted Hicks wanted me to ask you all, joy you to, even though you weren't there last time. I guess the guys want to do another collab, but they want to do it in December. And I said I didn't hear. My people said they wanted to do it again.

Andrea Nunez:

It would be a lot of live on the air.

Carmen Lezeth:

You can think about it, mull it over and let me know.

Andrea Nunez:

I'd be happy to do it. I just got it. You know like December is a rough month, but yeah Well, cynthia joy I.

Joy Gouge:

Will try. I guess it depends on what time.

Carmen Lezeth:

Well, it would be at six o'clock, it would be at the same time, but it would be on a Friday. So it's gonna be one of the December Fridays. Did I say that right? A Friday in December. So I'll send you guys an email and I mean I, all of them want to do it, or whatever, and which is kind of cool. I just didn't even think about it because I thought we're gonna do it Maybe quarterly. But he has a idea, a theme, what he wants to ask questions about. I'm like, okay, cool.

Joy Gouge:

Is he gonna host?

Carmen Lezeth:

this time. I think I mean he hosted last time I didn't host. Well, I mean like on his. So the reason why we weren't using his is because he can't have the comments on oh I, it's because they don't have, so he has to be reading them and then putting them up one by one. Yeah, you know what I mean and, and I don't know, it just seems like a lot of work if all of us are on there and yeah, no, do you want to be on? Oh, he invited you on his show, so you're all game if it fits in your schedule. Yeah, I'm not feeling a lot of enthusiasm, I guess because you're being recorded, so we'll talk about it later and I'll take the blame for saying no, it's okay, you All right.

Carmen Lezeth:

So I sent you guys all a little list and I wanted to ask you all what is something extraordinary that you've done that you may or may not do again, and I went skydiving back in 2005. It's a great video, it's hilarious. It was cut down to one minute, but I found the 15 minute one. I'm not going to make you all watch it, but I'm going to redo it because the music on it, which is really cool, it's Eminem and it's YouTube. Every time I try to post it it gets taken down because it's not licensed. But the skydiving place did it. So I found the actual original video and I'm going to try with all my new editing skills to redo it with some different music so that I can show it, because I think it's kind of cool. But I love that video, not just because it's me skydiving, but I'm talking to the camera guy. You would think that I was talking to him. He can't hear me, but I'm talking to him.

Carmen Lezeth:

You're like get this light, I'm having a full on conversation with nobody, because Mario can't hear me and Nathan is the camera guy, clearly can't hear me, but it looks like I'm having this whole conversation. It's just kind of cool and anyways, but I would do that again in a heartbeat and so it got me thinking about that and I just wanted to know if there's anything extraordinary that you guys want to do, haven't done, already did and never want to do again. Andrea.

Andrea Nunez:

Well, mine is also skydiving, so I don't know if that's cheating.

Carmen Lezeth:

That's not cheating. Did you go skydiving and I didn't know?

Andrea Nunez:

Yeah, so I'm reluctant to bring this up, but so I was skydiving on my 30th birthday and like there was a whole group of people and I don't know why is like, why weren't you?

Cynthia Ruiz:

there. I'm so sorry yeah.

Carmen Lezeth:

Wait, what age was this?

Andrea Nunez:

My 30th birthday.

Carmen Lezeth:

Okay, so I think we're getting to a point right.

Andrea Nunez:

This is why you're reluctant because you got upset about the surprise party that you were somehow not invited I know that you were not invited to this, but I have no way to prove that.

Carmen Lezeth:

That's such a bullshittery. I had a surprise party for me. I didn't know about it. Now you're mad at me for not inviting you.

Andrea Nunez:

Okay, you want to go back here?

Carmen Lezeth:

Because you just think you went skydiving, which I never knew that you went skydiving and you've been lying to me all these years. You want to talk about how you didn't invite me to the skydiving party.

Andrea Nunez:

I feel like I would have invited you All, right, okay, I don't actually remember. Here's like it was a group of people, so it was my boyfriend at the time who which was who do. I know.

Carmen Lezeth:

Yeah.

Andrea Nunez:

You know didn't like him and my mom went your mom went to.

Carmen Lezeth:

I love.

Joy Gouge:

Your mom was skydiving.

Cynthia Ruiz:

Yeah, yeah.

Andrea Nunez:

Yeah, and then a couple of friends, but I honestly don't remember who.

Carmen Lezeth:

Well, I can't believe your mom went and you didn't invite me.

Andrea Nunez:

So we went to this place. I know I invited you.

Andrea Nunez:

I was in San Diego where you could see the water, which was really nice. And we get there and everyone's you know you have to sign the waivers and everything. You're not really thinking. You're trying not to think about it, Right? You're like, oh okay, Like we could literally all die and I was like this could be the actual worst day of my life. I was in love with her. I could die in front of me, or my boyfriend, who I love, or one of my friends. Like this was a horrible idea, but not Carmen, because she wasn't there but.

Andrea Nunez:

I didn't like love it. You know what I mean Like. So I just feel like I'm I'm good, I don't need to do that.

Carmen Lezeth:

Oh, you don't need to do it again.

Andrea Nunez:

Oh no.

Carmen Lezeth:

Did you video tape it?

Andrea Nunez:

Yeah, there's a video. Oh my God, I've never seen the video.

Carmen Lezeth:

Wow, I've never seen it. I've never seen it.

Cynthia Ruiz:

I've never seen it, I've never seen it.

Carmen Lezeth:

I've never seen it. I've never seen it. I've never seen it. I've never seen it, I've never seen it.

Rick Costa:

You've been, you've been hiding it because this is a fight We'll have offscreen, that's okay.

Andrea Nunez:

I think Andrea was saving your life subconsciously. That's what I choose my life I've already gone skydiving. Yeah, she didn't want to risk you again. Your skydiving In 2005,. That was after my.

Cynthia Ruiz:

Yeah, that was way after her.

Joy Gouge:

Not way.

Cynthia Ruiz:

I was like oh, I'm like 25 years.

Andrea Nunez:

That was like me, sorry.

Carmen Lezeth:

I can't stop laughing. Okay, we're going to talk later. I feel like there's more to talk about that and I feel like we're even, because I I can't believe you're laughing. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

Andrea Nunez:

I can't believe your mother didn't invite me. That's the weird you. That's why. I believe you were invited, but anyway, we can oh wow, we know what or that I wasn't invited.

Carmen Lezeth:

Oh my God, I got it. Yeah, I'm. I'm going to pull a 10 X and I'm going to just ignore.

Rick Costa:

Ignore.

Carmen Lezeth:

I'm pulling a 10 X. Okay, joy, what about you?

Joy Gouge:

You know, the weird thing is I don't know if I'm really done anything extraordinary. I would like to go parasailing again.

Carmen Lezeth:

You don't think that's extraordinary parasailing? I don't know. Oh my God, don't keep her head just like that, but it really was a lot of fun, though it really was. Is this because you're so bougie?

Joy Gouge:

It's kind of one of the regular basis Parasailing, parasailing, parasailing, parasailing, parasailing.

Cynthia Ruiz:

Parasailing.

Carmen Lezeth:

Parasailing, parasailing, parasailing, pararasailing.

Joy Gouge:

Can you come over? Well, the funny thing, you know, we're talking about skydiving. And I was laying in my hospital bed right after I had a blood clot in my lung and the doctor walks in. The very first thing he says to me is no skydiving for you. My mom was like Thank you, jesus. And then he's like Uh, it's Like he's planning to going to.

Carmen Lezeth:

Oh, you were gonna go, I was planning it yep. I think power sailing was scarier than skydiving. I've never been power sailing, but I would think that's scarier To me. It would be.

Joy Gouge:

It's like, once you get up in the air, it's like so peaceful because it's just silent, you know, and I mean you can see the ocean. I was on the ocean and you could just it was just, it was beautiful, it really was beautiful.

Carmen Lezeth:

When you're really up high and it feels like you're going slowly and how long were you up there? Probably about 10 minutes. Yeah, no, that's too long. No, no, no, no, no.

Andrea Nunez:

That's where you're like, attached to the boat, right With a parachute, yeah, yeah, no, that always looked fun to me. But then you see the video where they get detached and then they like float off somewhere.

Joy Gouge:

Yeah, no, I can't think about that, that's hand gliding right.

Carmen Lezeth:

I mean, there's a difference between power sailing and hand gliding. I would never go hand gliding, for sure.

Joy Gouge:

Now see, when I was in San Francisco I was actually going to try to get with one of my friend, chris, for a city. He knew somebody that was doing the hand gliding but the timing just didn't work out for us.

Carmen Lezeth:

But I was actually going to go hand gliding. No, that I wouldn't do Wow okay, you're an adventurous, yeah, I was yeah, here. I thought I was all cool being the only one who wins skydive. Clearly not, yeah, and clearly I'm not the only bougie person in the room. So, okay, cynthia, and I just want to give a shout out to people. If you still don't know who Cynthia can't see. Blah, blah, blah, okay, has anything changed, cynthia? Nope, okay, well, whatever, yeah, what about you? What about you?

Cynthia Ruiz:

I don't think I've done anything extraordinary, but I do want to swim with dolphins. Oh, me too.

Carmen Lezeth:

I do want to do that. Yeah, that does nothing for me, but yeah.

Cynthia Ruiz:

I love dolphins.

Carmen Lezeth:

I'm sorry, joy, go ahead, sorry, go ahead, joy.

Joy Gouge:

I'm going to try to do that next year, yeah.

Carmen Lezeth:

Cynthia, what are you planning to do it? No idea. Do you like swimming in the ocean?

Cynthia Ruiz:

No, so do I? No, but it wouldn't be in the ocean, it would be like in a tank, like you know how, like they have like in Vegas, how they have like a whole dolphin show. You can actually swim with them in the tank In Vegas.

Carmen Lezeth:

Okay, wow, you just ruined the thought. I would think you were doing it in the ocean.

Cynthia Ruiz:

No, not the ocean.

Andrea Nunez:

No, they don't have the trained dolphins in the ocean. You can't just jump in and swim with them, right? They won't come near you, I would imagine.

Joy Gouge:

Actually they can. Yeah, they can.

Cynthia Ruiz:

Yeah, I'd be too scared of sharks coming to try to eat them and eat me. I don't know.

Carmen Lezeth:

Okay, I'll tell you. When I used to go kayaking in the mornings in Malibu, we would all go kayaking at like six in the morning. It would be so cool to see the dolphins, you know what I mean, and it'd be. I was surrounded by a lot of triathletes and I was like scared out of my mind because I respect and love the beach. Everyone knows I live by the beach and I do. But being in the water is you're never gonna see me wanna do that. So that was a lot for me. But we would see the dolphins you know what I mean In the morning with the surfers, which is pretty cool, like when they're like alongside them or whatever.

Andrea Nunez:

But yeah, and they're like jumping over the waves. I've seen that.

Carmen Lezeth:

Yeah, they're just so beautiful and elegant. But of course I was like that looked like a shark, that didn't look like no dolphin and they'd be like oh my God, Carmen, I'm like it just looks like a shark, Like I see the fian, Isn't the fian like it should? I'd be like Carmen, Like you can't take the city out of the girl, right? No matter where you go. You only be so.

Andrea Nunez:

What is it? I wanna watch them. Cynthia, what is it Like? Why do you wanna swim with the dolphins? What is it about?

Cynthia Ruiz:

Oh, I love dolphins I've always loved dolphins. I just think they're so pretty and so smart and just I love them.

Carmen Lezeth:

Yeah, the ones in Vegas in a pool. Okay, maybe SeaWorld. How about that?

Cynthia Ruiz:

I don't know.

Carmen Lezeth:

We thought it was a red blue. Yeah, I would prefer that. I'm like I'm the biggest one. Carmen's okay in your SeaWorld trip, but not your biggest SeaWorld trip because they're probably at least trying to help the dolphins, but do they even have dolphins in Vegas anymore.

Andrea Nunez:

I don't think they do. No, they don't. Kate. We've had everything in Vegas. Carmen, oh yeah.

Carmen Lezeth:

The only thing I wanna see in Vegas is you two in the sphere, or whatever it's called. That's all I wanna see, but I'm waiting for those tickets from someone who might be watching the show. No, it's not. Hello, hello. Okay, rick, what about you Swimming with sharks? Maybe?

Rick Costa:

I also actually like dolphins a lot because they're so flipping, smart, but controlled environment. I ain't going in the middle of the ocean with no dolphins.

Cynthia Ruiz:

No, thank you, no, thank you.

Rick Costa:

No, sorry, no, ma'am, no, no, no, yeah, water and me? No, thank you. No, unless it's in the shower, no, which is another reason why I'd amuse me. Parks, if they have a water park. No, I just know, even though that's controlled. But still, me getting suddenly wet anybody that knows me just ticks me off, ruins my day, really makes me mad. Don't make me go out in the storm and rain. I will be so pissed. Don't let gang suddenly wet. I'll do rollercoasters, I'll do anything upside down, flip me up anywhere you want to, but don't put me out of water ride. No, sir.

Andrea Nunez:

Oh my gosh, the wicked witch on Wizard of Oz. You're like yeah.

Rick Costa:

Exactly, Exactly, but the last time they had I forgot what it's called, but it's like a pool but they have these huge waves that they make in the pool, of the wave pool, yeah. And actually went into that and they were like Rick, I can't believe you're in here and I'm like I know.

Cynthia Ruiz:

I'm like I tried something. I'm actually scared of that. I don't go up to my waist in the wave pool.

Rick Costa:

Yeah, I went to the wave pool.

Carmen Lezeth:

I don't know what that is.

Cynthia Ruiz:

So it's this really big pool area and every so often there's a wave that starts at the end and it starts off huge and everybody always wants to go and just jump the waves and it's yeah, it's a kind of dangerous.

Carmen Lezeth:

The main impact would wave in a pool. Yes, yeah.

Rick Costa:

But it's like huge, so you're like bobbing up and down as the water. Yeah.

Carmen Lezeth:

But it's in a pool.

Rick Costa:

It's huge, right yeah.

Andrea Nunez:

Not the ocean.

Joy Gouge:

None of that.

Andrea Nunez:

It's like to give you the feeling of being at the beach without the sand. Yeah, yeah.

Rick Costa:

Hand gliding. I would try that, nope.

Carmen Lezeth:

I would try that. Too long, too slow.

Andrea Nunez:

See, that's funny. Our things are in the air and the sea, or the water, I guess, maybe not the sea.

Carmen Lezeth:

Yeah, and Jared, would you do the swimming with dolphins Hell?

Andrea Nunez:

no, I don't like fish. I don't even want to go to the sea.

Rick Costa:

They're not fish, they're mammals.

Andrea Nunez:

Whatever. I don't like fish, I will swim in the ocean. I don't mind that, but I won't go too far out, but I don't want to be touching water.

Carmen Lezeth:

Do you cook fish? I've never known you cook fish. No I love that about you.

Andrea Nunez:

I will eat it at a restaurant some, not all, but I don't want the smell of it in my house and I just think it's, I don't know, they creep me out.

Carmen Lezeth:

Melanie said I'd rather do a water ride than a roller coaster.

Rick Costa:

She's opposite, she's opposite.

Andrea Nunez:

You guys don't want to be upset.

Rick Costa:

I love a roller coaster.

Carmen Lezeth:

Roller coaster or water ride Joy.

Joy Gouge:

Oh god those.

Andrea Nunez:

You're just one here, I love roller coasters, love them.

Carmen Lezeth:

You know what I was going to say. The ones where you have the harness that comes over your head and, like those, make me claustrophobic. And you know, most of them are that now, like I'm used to the old rickety ones where we were all going to fall out Remember we were going to have to do a little tiny bar.

Rick Costa:

Just a bar and that's it 80s kids.

Carmen Lezeth:

we really did not. We were not very well protected.

Rick Costa:

And yet we survived.

Carmen Lezeth:

And yet we survived. We didn't have to eat else. Remember that.

Rick Costa:

Oh yeah.

Carmen Lezeth:

OK, wait, Do you remember? Ok, I don't know about you guys, but when I was growing up, you'd walk into somebody's house and everybody was smoking. They'd talk to you and they'd be like smoke in your face. Now, if somebody's smoking a mile from it and I do this all the time because I'm ex-smoker I'm like, oh, I'm going to get cancer. It's horrible, You're leaving me 80s kids. We didn't really. We really had it different. Oh yeah, You're a feral. What did you say? I said we were feral. I don't know what feral means.

Andrea Nunez:

What does that mean? Like a wild cat, you know what I mean. They say a feral cat. You're just out on your own trying to survive.

Carmen Lezeth:

But you know what, I don't ever remember seeing it that way, but when you look back you realize you really were yeah Well, you don't see it that way, because that's just your life.

Andrea Nunez:

When you look back and you're like, oh, what was the reason you never know writing our bikes until midnight, I don't know.

Carmen Lezeth:

We used to play. This is how I knew we were out late at night. We used to play something called flashlight tag, which means it had to be dark out. We all had flashlights and it'd be the same thing. But then you would have to go find people, You'd have to put the beam of light on them and then they'd be it and everybody would be on rooftops under cars. We'd be climbing trees and I'm like, oh my god, if any of the kids in my life would do that now, I'd be like, are you crazy? But it would be 9, 10 o'clock at night. Anthony just said every 80s kid either stood up in the front of their mother and father's car or rode jammed pack in the back of the station wagon.

Cynthia Ruiz:

The station wagon, yes, the station wagon Head of the truck right.

Rick Costa:

Dangle in my feet at the back of the car. Head of the truck.

Carmen Lezeth:

Oh, come on Right on the pickup truck, what other crazy 80s things do you remember that you would especially the parents in the room and the God grandparents I think that's all of you except me right that we do that you wouldn't let your kids do or your nieces and nephews do.

Rick Costa:

What was that thing that spun around? And you just held on to it for dear life. And they spin like crazy, like the playground.

Cynthia Ruiz:

I don't think they would fly those anymore.

Rick Costa:

They don't fly?

Cynthia Ruiz:

I wouldn't fly today.

Carmen Lezeth:

Well, I'm shocked that they have those cushion things at the playgrounds. You know, when you walk on the floor of a playground, it's like a gymnastics floor, it's all cushion.

Cynthia Ruiz:

Yeah, you like bounce.

Carmen Lezeth:

I'm like what the hell is this? And then, like the bottom was like it's so that the kids don't hurt themselves.

Rick Costa:

I'm like and now they don't want metal slides, they want plastic. So you don't burn your butt, I guess, or whatever.

Carmen Lezeth:

Ooh I used to have them skin burns when you wore the cords, but isn't that? How Look? I'm not saying kids should be hurt, but isn't that part of learning?

Andrea Nunez:

Yes, well, I've talked about this a million times with you, carmen just like the inability of kids today are not able to make decisions for themselves. They have like almost zero independence, and I actually read this whole study about how that could be, in addition to certain other things happening nowadays, part of what leads to like these skyrocketing depression and things like that, and just the ways people think about kids now, how they're, the way they are in the workplace, like they just we were out making decisions for ourselves what we wanted to eat, when we wanted to eat, who we wanted to hang out with, when we wanted to leave, what we wanted to play. I mean, we were making all of those decisions for ourselves at a very young age and kids now do not even have an opportunity to do something like that.

Cynthia Ruiz:

But the difference is, I think back then, even though we made all those decisions, we still had respect for our elders. These kids nowadays can't make a decision and have no respect for their elders.

Joy Gouge:

Exactly. Go ahead, joy, explain no, you're right. You're right, I mean, granted, I'll have in the number one, most crime written area in America. We got that title and you see it every day in Memphis about there's no respect.

Cynthia Ruiz:

None.

Joy Gouge:

Wow. No respect for themselves, no respect for the elderly, nothing.

Carmen Lezeth:

Yeah, the whole elderly thing is weird to me. Let me just answer something Melanie just wrote. Melanie said we would play flashlight tag in a fenced-in yard. We didn't have a yard, but I hear you, I got you and yeah, it was a merry-go-round at the playground. That's exactly what it was, Melanie. I think that's what it was called.

Rick Costa:

The world was our yard.

Andrea Nunez:

Her yard was a football block.

Carmen Lezeth:

I'm shocked by the lack of respect for the elders, but I will admit that I made a mistake with one of my clients. So one of my clients is originally from Texas. I handle a lot of properties that they own in Texas or whatever, and one of the things that's really great about her is that the way she raises her kids is they have to say yes, ma'am, no ma'am, and it's really refreshing. I'll just be honest, it's weird. When I first met them and I walked into the house and they call me Ms Carmen and they say yes, ma'am, no ma'am or whatever. And the first time one of the kids said it to me I said oh, you don't have to say ma'am. And my client came running over no, he does. It was really interesting because here I was kind of poo-pooing the whole ma'am the ma'am thing because I feel old if somebody says that. And then what my client told me was like I'm from down south, my kids will always be respectful, they will always say that, and it's so refreshing and now I realize that's actually an honor, like I love what they call me Ms Carmen and I get it.

Carmen Lezeth:

I think there's also something to it that I'm not saying that kids are at fault for not respecting. I think their parents are not teaching them that. But we also kind of push away this thing about becoming elders right, like this is weird thing, like we all have to be cool and hip I'm doing air quotes, hip or whatever and not fall into that category. So I feel bad, cause I think this generation doesn't get to make those decisions because again, not a parent, but I'm gonna throw this out there they're sheltered from day one. You don't let them go outside and play. You create play dates. You don't let them take chances. Or I had someone the other day on TikTok make a comment about what do you mean? You used to drink out of the hose. I'm like what are you confused by? You would get in the middle of it. Somebody had a hose and you'd be thirsty, you'd drink some water. They were like oh no, I would never, I would never.

Carmen Lezeth:

We were thirsty, we drank out of the hose, somebody's you know garden or whatever, and I say that loosely in the streets of Boston, but you know what I mean. I'm not blaming parents. I think it's just the world we live in and that's why I think kids gravitate towards the internet so much, cause that's kind of their playground. And it leads me to the next question I had, which I told you all. I wrote a blog post this past week. I don't know if y'all had a chance to read it, but I should probably tell people. So I have two websites all about the joys. One website which is just kind of our clips and is more of a place where I just kind of put stuff that's happening.

Carmen Lezeth:

But for over 20 years I've had my own website, which is carmenlesetcom or carmenswarscom, and every week I post a blog. That's probably a little bit, as I was called, spicier, spicier and then what you hear here. But one of the things I talked about in that blog post was I wonder if the disconnect between my generation which I think is everyone in this room Gen X and maybe millennials and Gen Z, is this different idea of how we use the internet Like to me. In the blog post I wrote, the internet is just a tool. It's not my everyday life. I can live without the internet. It is just something I use to do things. It's kind of like to me, no different than a microwave or a television set. It's just another thing in the toolbox that I own. But my question was is it possible that millennials and Gen Z that other generations the internet is there every day. It's them walking outside. It's like us walking outside, growing up and hanging out For them. This is their reality and maybe that's where the disconnect is. I'm just asking.

Rick Costa:

Like little kids can't even fathom that there didn't used to be an internet Like what you had. No internet Like it's barbaric or something.

Andrea Nunez:

Yeah, not even little kids. I mean people in their 20s may have no experience of life without the internet or even social media really in their memory.

Cynthia Ruiz:

So I think that makes a lot of sense that they're just made out of it and they're gonna allow that social skill of actually meeting someone talking to them. Everything is just on the computer, on their phones.

Carmen Lezeth:

Joy, what do you think about it?

Joy Gouge:

No, I agree, because there's no personal skills, there's no true interaction and for a lot of times, when there's interaction between young kids, it's either bullying, it's either cyber stalking it's crazy, and I'm talking about like fifth and sixth grade kids. Yeah, and it's sad. It really is sad, because when you see a lot of kids and not all kids are like this please not trying to label all kids as like but in even like 20 somethings, they don't know how to interact with people. Yeah, you know, they just don't and it's sad.

Carmen Lezeth:

Well, I think that had a lot to do with. I'm just gonna shout out and say that Melanie said that she used to drink from the sink as well as the hose. What do you mean? The sink? Oh, we would just drink water from the sink.

Rick Costa:

Yeah, because today people are like ew.

Carmen Lezeth:

Oh yeah, that's right. I didn't think about that. That's right.

Andrea Nunez:

Nobody drinks from the sink. Well, nobody drinks, they're sink water maybe it's a toilet water. You know what I'm talking about.

Carmen Lezeth:

It's not the water. Right here. I was thinking that maybe, you know, I think that might be a lot of the disconnect between my understanding like people are having full on relationships, romantic relationship, they have best friends they've never met, I you know, up until I started thinking about it, especially from what happened last week on the show. That's why I started thinking about this and I was just completely thrown by this concept that I'm best friends with somebody or that I'm supposed to be something with somebody, with people I've never even met or had any type of relationship with. And and Andrea, you and I had dinner and we were that's kind of where, this kind of square drug having this conversation with you, and I wonder if it's even fair Like it's probably not fair to tell people go meet people in person Cause they, for them, that's their world, their world is actually getting up every day and getting online and that's them going outside. Does that make sense? That's how.

Andrea Nunez:

I'm saying it, yeah, yeah, that's not the world they grew up in, right, even what I was talking about, like they didn't grow up in a world where you go outside to play with the neighborhood kids and you know we can look at all of the different reasons. That almost doesn't matter at this point, cause that's just not what happened, mm-hmm Right.

Carmen Lezeth:

So but does that make us our situation better and there's worse, like are we losing something with everything they've gained?

Andrea Nunez:

I mean, maybe, maybe not. Right Time will tell, I suppose. But like it's just different, you know they have skills we don't have.

Carmen Lezeth:

Exactly. Well, that's the big one. And let me just read what Anthony just wrote. He said is that US?

Andrea Nunez:

or us, us the net savvy and tech nerds. All right, keep going. Have it attributed to the way kids are? When I was a kid, this was new and it was like revenge of the nerds or war games. We've made it the normal, making it a double-edged sword. Yeah, oh, good point, it's a really good point. Great movie war games by the way I could watch that not that long ago.

Carmen Lezeth:

Yeah that's a great movie, since we can talk about movies. Yeah, I think I'm excited.

Rick Costa:

I heard somebody say like if you want to punish your kid, don't say go to your room, just turn off your router.

Cynthia Ruiz:

Yeah, yeah turn off your router.

Carmen Lezeth:

I think there's something to this idea. And then you know, look it, I'm always open to changing and look it. I'm not just talking about kids, we're talking about 30-year-olds. So let's be very clear, we're talking about millennials here. That's what I'm.

Carmen Lezeth:

I think kids I'm just going to be straight up Gen Z kids like my goddaughter, juliana, are actually in a lot of ways and Andrea, you can tell me, isabella is the same way, but kind of just, there's a lot of rejection of technology and there's a lot of embracing of what they think the 80s were like right, like they all have turntables. They all think we lived in like friends, like in big apartments in New York and we all hung out at the car. Now, in a lot of ways, she's not wrong, you know what I mean but I see a lot of rejection to like she won't wear labels and, rick, you and I were talking about this at one show Like we were all about, like Nike Jordash, to the point, and so I really want to be clear. I feel like there's a and it's not all people like Joy, how you said, it's not everyone, but I'm talking about older people who are in the 30s and 40s who are really kind of, maybe in that mesh of being involved with the internet in such a way that I actually do think is unhealthy, right.

Carmen Lezeth:

And yet I see what the brilliance of. I would have never met Joy or Rick or Ted Hicks or Melanie or Anthony Davis if it wasn't for the internet, right, like. And when I say meet, I mean having these conversations and just having the ability to connect with people in other countries. And you know, I mean I have so many quote unquote friends. I think about Nazim, who I saw on Facebook today, and you know so they're a great benefit, but I wonder if there's more harm being done because of the lack of ability to have an interaction in person. Maybe I'm wrong.

Andrea Nunez:

I mean, that's what we're designed for, right Like humans want that interaction. It's a very natural, animalistic thing.

Carmen Lezeth:

I mean, I really believe that, and so yeah, but is that different if you do it online versus in person?

Andrea Nunez:

Yeah, I do think it is. So I do think something lost, you know.

Carmen Lezeth:

I'm going to argue with you. I'm going to say what does it matter if it's in person or not, like I just? I mean.

Andrea Nunez:

I really can't say like put my finger on it, but like you and I can have our phone. You know, I'll just use us as an example. Right, we can meet here online and we can have our phone calls, but there's something different about, I would say, the way both of us feel when we have a chance to get actually together in person.

Carmen Lezeth:

you know, Right, but we met before the interwebs was a thing, right? Well, I can't?

Andrea Nunez:

I mean, if that's the criteria, then I can speak to it, because I don't know what it's like to be here, right? No, no, no.

Carmen Lezeth:

But that's kind of my point right? My point is someone who's grown up with having the internet as their way of having interactions on a regular basis. Does that make their relationship less real? Because they're never gonna meet another.

Andrea Nunez:

I'm not in their mind, I wouldn't think, but, as you were saying in my mind, maybe it does right. Maybe I'm judging, I have never met Rick.

Carmen Lezeth:

I've never met Joy. Does that mean that my relationship is less important or less of substance because I haven't met them in person? Is the question. It's something I'm grappling with. I think, it depends on each person. So you're saying Joy is the better person, so that's a good relationship, but Rick sucks. So yeah, yeah.

Rick Costa:

I'm just kidding, In my Facebook memories today there's this woman that she was kind of big on the Periscope days and all that stuff too, Very motivational type personality and everybody loved her, whatever. And so we talked, we liked each other, whatever. And then she goes. You know what? I'm gonna be in Massachusetts, but I'm gonna be in Connecticut to airport because I'm going to Bradley. She goes. You wanted me. I was like heck, yeah, let's go, let's meet. And so we did and I have pictures and everything. We met up but like nothing changed. Like just because I met her in person, it's still nothing changed. We're still like each other, the same, equally. Nothing really changed just because I met her in person. I'm just, that's the case with Rick anyway.

Carmen Lezeth:

So you would say, based on that example possibly, that whether it's in person or meeting online, it's the same thing.

Rick Costa:

It can be.

Carmen Lezeth:

Melanie says every generation has things that the previous generation didn't have. Who wants to live in pre-industrial revolutionary days? This is what I'm talking about, melanie keeping that bar up, girl. That's incredible. It's a great point. It's a great point.

Rick Costa:

And something that would be interesting to talk about maybe too one day is how much would our lives, each of us, be upended and thrown upside down if suddenly something happened in the world and there was no internet?

Andrea Nunez:

I said I think about that all the time In a bad way.

Carmen Lezeth:

I think that would be a great thing.

Andrea Nunez:

I do too, but it would be a rough couple of weeks.

Rick Costa:

For the kids especially.

Carmen Lezeth:

My kids would be trust Parents of kids. Michael just said I believe you can have a connection with someone on the net. Love frequencies can be felt from great distances. That's fair enough. I look at. I'm gonna start wrapping this up because I did talk to Ted and his show is gonna. He's like I said we'll get off so he can have a show at 7.15 or whatever.

Carmen Lezeth:

But here's the thing. I'm a little old school. I really believe there is something different to meeting someone in person. I am gonna try to be more open to the idea that some people for me it's also the romantic relationship thing that's killing me. Maybe that's a more detailed conversation to have Can you have a romantic relationship with someone who you've never met?

Carmen Lezeth:

And that's kind of like that. Some people believe that they can. I guess so, but that's the one that's harder for me. Do I think Joy and Rick would still be good friends if I met them in person? Of course I don't think that would not be, because I feel like I'm getting to know that. But could I meet someone online Like to me? Okay, this is what I said today to somebody I was talking on the phone. I said I have always been in love with, let's say, indiana Jones. Right, because that's you and everybody knows I. Indiana Jones, that's my man, right there, that's my man. You know what I mean. The actor is 80 something years old today. You know what I mean. Like, the reality of who he is is not the character he portrays to be. Do you see what I'm saying?

Joy Gouge:

Like to me when I think of me and to show catfish. Exactly, show catfish.

Cynthia Ruiz:

Oh, so catfish is basically people who have met other people online and they so-called have fallen in love with them, and the other person on the other line is not who they really are.

Carmen Lezeth:

Oh yeah, that's a scam. That's a scam. Yeah, Mike said. Many people meet on the net and end up getting met. Yeah, I don't have a problem with that, but they actually meet each other. What we're talking about when you've never met anyone, Michael. I totally hear you, Anthony. The internet has helped people meet that they would have never met in real life. But if all of this were to be destroyed, it would throw us back into the era of the 1950s and maybe even now, Absolutely. And let me be clear what I'm talking about. I think the internet as a tool to meet new people is brilliant. I'm not against. I love social media, I love the internet and I love that I've met all these people. But eventually I would think I would meet people in person, especially if I'm in love with them, Right, If I'm having a romance. That's where it gets a little weird for me, and I hope to someday meet. Well, Rick and I are going to Portugal. He said it once. I'm holding him to it. Look at, he's like what?

Rick Costa:

Yeah, it's right on my passport.

Carmen Lezeth:

Well, look, it's something to think about. I really appreciate it. The last thing I want to talk about we have a few minutes, and this is really to two people, so I'm going to start with Rick and then I'm going to go with Andrea, and then I'm going to go with Joy and then I'm going to go with Cynthia. When is it appropriate to put up a Christmas tree, if that is your thing?

Cynthia Ruiz:

OK.

Carmen Lezeth:

Rick, why don't you start us off baby?

Rick Costa:

I mean, it's definitely an individual thing. Everybody's different about it. Some people have an attitude of I can listen to Christmas music all year round, and other people are like, no, it's just during the Christmas season. Me, I feel like wait till we get past Thanksgiving and then go crazy. Before that I'm like it's a little bit early, but you do you.

Joy Gouge:

Andrea your thoughts.

Andrea Nunez:

After Thanksgiving for sure, without a doubt for me, and I would even lean towards maybe like get into December. Really that's interesting Like a beat yeah yeah, like December. Have it be an actual separate holiday OK. I hear you Living, take a beat Christmas. Ok, go ahead, joy.

Rick Costa:

All right, sorry, and you're pointing perfectly at it. Great job, joanie. There's the answer, no words necessary.

Joy Gouge:

How long is this going?

Carmen Lezeth:

to take. Ok, we know, we got to get you back, we got to get you walking.

Joy Gouge:

She's going to show us how Go ahead you got to bring it. I'm still there, right, ok, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait wait, wait, wait, wait wait, wait, wait, wait, because it's too high up.

Carmen Lezeth:

We're looking at the ceiling a little bit more. Ok, good, now go around the room.

Joy Gouge:

so we can oh that actually looks pretty though OK here's my little one. I'm not finished with yet.

Carmen Lezeth:

I've got all this. Oh my gosh, you got the garland up. Ok, bring it down again. We can't really see. We're seeing the ceiling. Ok, got it. Wow, girl, when am I present?

Joy Gouge:

You have Joy Right now. Just take it on. I've got one little one. How?

Andrea Nunez:

many are you going to have by the end of this decorating situation? I'm not sure.

Carmen Lezeth:

So cute Is my present there. It's a big. I see you didn't let us see the bottom of the tree because I was going to put the car in my place.

Rick Costa:

She didn't wrap it yet.

Cynthia Ruiz:

It's not really feeling me and Joy are on the same page.

Carmen Lezeth:

I thought I went the way I went, ok, but I think Joy has you be. But go ahead, cynthia, why?

Rick Costa:

aren't you, cynthia, about to turn her phone around?

Carmen Lezeth:

That's OK. You did it good. It's perfect, cynthia.

Cynthia Ruiz:

So usually November 1st, I put up my tree right after Thanksgiving. I didn't do it this time because last weekend I was sick, so it's going to go up this weekend.

Andrea Nunez:

Oh goodness, Are you like it's so?

Cynthia Ruiz:

I'm so itching to put it up.

Carmen Lezeth:

I mean, I put that question on here because I saw Joy post it on Facebook. I was like this is the. I loved it. I loved it. It was so good. Oh, you're in there, you're into it, you know what. Here's the thing.

Carmen Lezeth:

I was going to tell you guys what my theory is, and I don't think it's a bad thing. I think the thing about Christmas, whether you are religious or not and I can say pretty easily with Andrea and myself hey, ted, I'm a word, we're jumping off on time the day after Halloween, but it needs to be taken down before that's what Ted just said in the comments. I think the reason why you know people like Christmas is because of joy, and I don't mean my friend Joy, I mean because it elicits happiness and joy and it's like we crave that so much. But I think it's actually a sad thing. Right, we have to put up Christmas and I'm not saying we have to, but I think that's what it is and it's getting earlier and earlier every year. So I want to find joy somehow in Halloween or in like fourth of July or something. Well, I'm lucky because I have a friend who was born on the fourth of July, so we can have joy on his birthday. It's actually Joe Lava who we had on the show his birthday on July 4th.

Carmen Lezeth:

Let me see. Anthony just said we have a rule about the Christmas tree in our house. We put it up between December 10th to December 16th. I think that's normal baby, because my brother's birthday is on December 15th. To take it down then take it down is always on January 2nd or 3rd. Yeah, having a birthday during that time period makes you have to change the game a bit. Could it be all about the joy and Tony is trying to promote the show, but? But so I'm going to close this off a little bit and move us through and move on to making sure we go check out Ted's show. Thank you everyone For stopping. Can I just say no, no, no.

Cynthia Ruiz:

OK, I'm so bummed that I can't see joy. I want to see all her Christmas stuff. You can see it.

Rick Costa:

Oh man.

Carmen Lezeth:

Right, you cannot see joy. You still can't see her. All you see is a.

Rick Costa:

Oh, I bet, when you open Joyce door, a stereo kick sign. All I want, a lot for.

Cynthia Ruiz:

Christmas.

Andrea Nunez:

That's your doorbell.

Carmen Lezeth:

I was good you brought it back. I forgot about that whole thing at the beginning. But, yeah, you haven't been able to enjoy. But you know, until the very end you'll be able to go watch the replay, you'll be able to see her. But her Christmas stuff looks cool but she ain't even because what she she doesn't realize. We all noticed, right, she, she panned the camera and we can see that she started. She started to put some other stuff up like this, whatever. I saw that she got that place hooked up. So we'll see you again next time, joy, when you have it all full on.

Joy Gouge:

Cynthia frame me on Facebook.

Cynthia Ruiz:

OK.

Carmen Lezeth:

I will yeah you guys, oh God, yeah, the Christmas buddies Great, but everyone, it was great to have you here. Thank you so much. I'm going to do a couple of shout outs again. Linkedin oh my God, we are like four hundred and eleven people now. I know people don't think that's a big deal, but to me it's huge. And I don't know what happened the other day, but we got a whole bunch of new followers on the podcast.

Rick Costa:

Sassam Carmen came out.

Carmen Lezeth:

But anyway, thank you to everyone and I appreciate everyone's kindness and uplifting spirits about my family on the East Coast. I did go home for an unfortunate passing of one of our sisters, one of our favorite people, who died unexpectedly. So thank you for everyone who reached out and, yeah, everyone, we'll see you again next week and remember, it's all about the joy. Bye everyone. Thank you, thanks for stopping by. All about the joy. Be better and stay beautiful folks. Have a sweet day.

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