Ever wondered what it takes to transition from a career in law enforcement to the bright lights of acting? Sharing her intriguing journey with us, Kelly Quinn spills all about her brave move from being a cop to full-time acting. As an exemplary tale of passion and determination, her story will surely inspire those who are contemplating a career change or pursuing their dreams. We discuss the bonds formed in acting classes, the heartbreaks and triumphs of auditions, and the unique demands each role brings.
Peek behind the curtain as we take a trip reminiscing about the golden age of TV with Norman Lear's groundbreaking shows like All in the Family and Sanford and Son. The fearless way they approached taboo topics revolutionized the television industry, and we discuss the lasting impact of Lear's daring creativity. We also explore the subtle contrasts between theater and film acting, highlighting the challenges and unique aspects each presents, and how the location of a shoot can deeply impact an actor's immersion into the character.
Tune in as we share our dream roles, paying tribute to industry greats such as Carroll O'Connor, Meryl Streep, and Viola Davis. We'll also discuss the importance of a supportive circle in chasing your dreams and appreciating every opportunity that crosses your path. The journey of an actor is strewn with highs and lows, and we hope this candid discussion will encourage aspiring actors to embrace both with equal gusto.
*in this episode Carmen refers to "Tina Fey" in error, it was "Molly Shannon". Apologies for the error.
Thank you for stopping by. Please visit our website: All About The Joy and add, like and share. We'd appreciate that greatly. Also, if you want to find us anywhere on social media, please check out the link in bio page.
Music By Geovane Bruno, Moments, 3481
Editing by Team A-J
Host, Carmen Lezeth
DISCLAIMER: As always, please do your own research and understand that the opinions in this podcast and livestream are meant for entertainment purposes only. States and other areas may have different rules and regulations governing certain aspects discussed in this podcast. Nothing in our podcast or livestream is meant to be medical or legal advice. Please use common sense, and when in doubt, ask a professional for advice, assistance, help and guidance.
Ever wondered what it takes to transition from a career in law enforcement to the bright lights of acting? Sharing her intriguing journey with us, Kelly Quinn spills all about her brave move from being a cop to full-time acting. As an exemplary tale of passion and determination, her story will surely inspire those who are contemplating a career change or pursuing their dreams. We discuss the bonds formed in acting classes, the heartbreaks and triumphs of auditions, and the unique demands each role brings.
Peek behind the curtain as we take a trip reminiscing about the golden age of TV with Norman Lear's groundbreaking shows like All in the Family and Sanford and Son. The fearless way they approached taboo topics revolutionized the television industry, and we discuss the lasting impact of Lear's daring creativity. We also explore the subtle contrasts between theater and film acting, highlighting the challenges and unique aspects each presents, and how the location of a shoot can deeply impact an actor's immersion into the character.
Tune in as we share our dream roles, paying tribute to industry greats such as Carroll O'Connor, Meryl Streep, and Viola Davis. We'll also discuss the importance of a supportive circle in chasing your dreams and appreciating every opportunity that crosses your path. The journey of an actor is strewn with highs and lows, and we hope this candid discussion will encourage aspiring actors to embrace both with equal gusto.
*in this episode Carmen refers to "Tina Fey" in error, it was "Molly Shannon". Apologies for the error.
Thank you for stopping by. Please visit our website: All About The Joy and add, like and share. We'd appreciate that greatly. Also, if you want to find us anywhere on social media, please check out the link in bio page.
Music By Geovane Bruno, Moments, 3481
Editing by Team A-J
Host, Carmen Lezeth
DISCLAIMER: As always, please do your own research and understand that the opinions in this podcast and livestream are meant for entertainment purposes only. States and other areas may have different rules and regulations governing certain aspects discussed in this podcast. Nothing in our podcast or livestream is meant to be medical or legal advice. Please use common sense, and when in doubt, ask a professional for advice, assistance, help and guidance.
So welcome everyone to All About the Joy, as always, having technical difficulties a year into this process for eight months. So Rick hi always nice to see you.
Carmen Lezeth:I want to welcome my friend, kelly. Hello Hi, kelly Woo, so nice to see you. I was going to ask you a long time ago to come on the show and I never did because I was like she's so busy and everything and always out auditioning and she got her kids and her husband and her job and so I was so glad that we were able to connect and figure out a way for you to be on the show. So I'm really excited.
Kelly Quinn:I'm excited too, so I'm so happy you asked me. I figured I wasn't going to make the cut to be on.
Carmen Lezeth:Oh, my God, Not in a million years. But I do know that Tommy is not feeling well. Hold on one second please.
Rick Costa:Is that Tommy?
Carmen Lezeth:Hi, this is my brother from another mother. So, billy, I love you with all my heart, but I'm actually live right now. You want to say hi to everyone in YouTube land.
Rick Costa:Yes, this is live.
Speaker 2:It is your night, that is correct and I believe it is 6pm.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah. Yeah. We just went live with Kelly and Rick and we have people in the chat and they're listening to you right now because I have you on speaker.
Speaker 2:That sounds great. I'll just let them know that I was giving you a friendly update. Let's chat and see how our lives are. I love you very much.
Carmen Lezeth:I love you. And I hope your show is a great success. Thank you. I love you, billy. I'll talk to you later. I'll call you tomorrow, bye, bye, sorry, you know you got to answer all your calls from family. I'm so sorry.
Carmen Lezeth:You know what I mean, sorry, Okay, so let's start with you, kelly, if you don't mind talking. I know you mentioned something about our topic, but we'll talk about that later. I want to talk about you and acting, if that's okay, first. Okay, yeah, so, kelly, first I thought I would ask you to share with everybody how we met, because I always do that first, if that's okay, because Rick doesn't even know.
Kelly Quinn:Yeah, Well, we met in an online acting class with Howard Fine Studio and we were participants in well, it was an acting technique. Right, it was a long.
Carmen Lezeth:I'm turning off my phone right now, everybody, I'm so sorry.
Rick Costa:It was acting.
Carmen Lezeth:It was his. It was Howard Fine Studios, who I always tell everyone he's one of the best acting coaches in the country. His book is amazing and we met because it was during COVID right, we both were taking online classes and we met in his first. I thought it was scene study, but you're probably right.
Kelly Quinn:And I think it was like acting technique, like the, whatever the first level was, but it lasted for a bit. I think we had like a good six weeks yeah.
Carmen Lezeth:And I hated you no. She's tell the truth.
Kelly Quinn:We bonded over yeah, there was an incident with one of the other students that sort of and then Carmen and I I think you were being a reader for me for one of we had a self tape we've seen.
Carmen Lezeth:And you have to tell people. These people are not acting people. Okay so so is explain what that is.
Kelly Quinn:If she so, she's being a reader. So I have a script and there's two roles and I'm assigned one role and then she's being she's essentially being the voice of the other role, and then I'm using I was using my phone to tape myself doing this scene with responding to her voice, essentially cause she's off camera so nobody's seeing her, and I sort of just took a chance. I was like all right, but can we just talk about? And if we can't, that's fine. You know, but it would like just it was a gossip.
Kelly Quinn:Stop thinking about it and I know that sounds so terrible, but it was an interesting thing and she just completely went along and didn't touch me for whatever I said. No, why would I?
Carmen Lezeth:We were all feeling the same thing. I mean, basically, we were all hating some somebody in the class and it's a he. I think it was a he right.
Kelly Quinn:No, it was a she.
Carmen Lezeth:Oh, you know what, let me. I'm so sorry I'm changing a lot of people in the class, but can I just say something? What we were doing in the class cause I think this is the interesting is what happens in actual film. When you see a close up of an actor and he's talking or she's talking, they're usually speaking to the camera and someone who is reading to them. They're seen partner, and I don't think people understand that, because when it's done so seamlessly well, you think you're just watching these people going back and forth because the camera work is going like that. So I was acting as a reader for her.
Kelly Quinn:Yeah, and spoiler alert. A lot of times the other actors not there. It's not the right. Right it's. You're not actually going back and forth. Right.
Carmen Lezeth:The real person you're filming at different times and that's difficult because you're not actually going to be able to see the camera work, and if you're nobody like me and you have a scene with, like Tina Fey, tina Fey is not going to show up to read lines with me. I'm going to be reading with whoever happens to be there and I've got to do all the emotion, all the whatever, as if it's Tina Fey. You can ask me why I said.
Kelly Quinn:Tina Fey later. But anyways, go ahead, I just want to teach people. Go ahead. Yes, I haven't asked her to be a reader a lot, even if I had auditions after that, and we just kept in touch and sort of formed this relationship and it was all over Zoom and electronics because it was during COVID and I mean such a weird time to kind of form a friendship without actually I think it was almost a year, I want to say later before we actually saw each other.
Carmen Lezeth:So let's back up, because you actually lived in California and now you live in Chicago, right, and you live here with your husband and your kids and and as soon as we could, you came up and stay. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, I had a big time audition. I had a job. Yeah, yeah, you had a job. So I said, come stay at my place, because that's what you do as an actor you help each other out. So she came and stayed. She stayed in a little bunk bed, thingamajig. Yeah, I didn't give you my bed. I didn't give you my bed, right.
Kelly Quinn:I wouldn't have expected that that would have been. I would have been like no, you're sleeping in your bed in your house.
Carmen Lezeth:Well, I, just because I mean you have a house, house, you know, I just have a one bedroom by the beach, but but we went to dinner and stuff and it was just kind of cool because, rick, it's kind of like what you talk about when I always ask you, when you meet people in person, does it change things? And you say, you say no, I I. This is different because we're not talking about romantic stuff, right, of course, but I actually think it just made it better. I did, yeah, I mean, yeah, we became better friends, I think because of it.
Kelly Quinn:Yeah, and now we have to be far apart again.
Carmen Lezeth:But we stay in touch and you've helped me with quite a few things and I keep forgetting how much younger you are than me and Rick, I guess at this point because you started off in the green room and I was like don't talk, don't say a word, don't say anything. She's like people don't hate me, but I don't really know all the shows from Norman Lear, because when you connect with somebody, you really it does. Age kind of loses its meaning, you know. But, rick, do you have any questions for Kelly? She's an actual different from me, acting wise. She is actually going out and auditioning all the time and getting jobs and work. I have kind of stopped doing that because I'm doing other things. But let me also just say this, and I'm going to give you some props, kelly, don't get mad at me, I don't care. Don't get mad at me.
Carmen Lezeth:So I meet a lot of people in this town. I do, and I meet a lot of people who know the people I work for or people that know that I have some connections or whatever. And I also meet a lot of people in acting class, because I'm always trying to build my tool as well and stay on point with performance and stuff. The thing about Kelly that's really cool. It's not even that she's a great actress, I know. Just don't react Good. Good, I love that you're acting right now, good.
Carmen Lezeth:What I love about it is she changed her entire career and I'll leave it up to her whether or not she wants to talk about that from what she used to do to take this shot recently, and she's really good, naturally, but she's also obsessed with working on it and she's got that it factor thing of a jiggy and she's so down to earth and cool as shit. And so I love connecting with people that I think have integrity and talent and are going to persevere no matter what, and I'm going to make sure I get my 10% when the bitch makes it large. I'm just kidding, but I had to throw that out there because that's I mean. That's the other part too. It was easy to gravitate towards you, you know. Thank you I don't deserve it.
Kelly Quinn:I love you. I love you too. I mean, give me a break.
Carmen Lezeth:This is Carmen, I know but can you tell me about what you? I mean? Do you mind sharing how you made this choice to become an actor?
Kelly Quinn:No, I actually started when I was very little. My parents got me an agent and I was doing the kid modeling thing and I would go to auditions and we lived in San Diego at the time, so the commute is something, and I actually got some very good callbacks for films and they didn't want, they didn't want to make. Yeah, it was frustrating and to give them credit to. One of them would have had to quit work and we just didn't. Yeah, we financially could not do that as a fan.
Kelly Quinn:Though not, it's not like they were just like, hmm, I mean they, there was a reason. But I I still remember memorizing Like little paragraphs from books or whatever and then going and having to, you know, do that and I I enjoyed it and I sort of always kept the foot in. I got very involved with sports. I played basketball into college and so I couldn't ever be like, I never went out for main roles, but I would take an acting class right because I, just I would gravitated towards it. Um, and then after school I ended up in law enforcement. I was sorry say that again. I ended up in law enforcement. I was just a regular patrol officer, um, but doing all the regular you know, beat cop stuff, um, and I I looked very young, shocking.
Kelly Quinn:I did a uh, a lot of undercover work. So I just argue I kept trying to act, but just in a different Right.
Carmen Lezeth:Um, like I was like I'm gonna make it happen. This is why but this is why I love your story so much because I Motherfucking hate cops. You and I have had this conversation. One of my dearest friends was a motherfucking cop. I love this shit.
Kelly Quinn:Um and I, and sometimes I'm hesitant because I really understand why that's very triggering for many people and I. You know, you it, but I know how I acted and behaved and what I tried to do. But, um, unfortunately there's a lot of other people that don't you know that are right. It's not a great experience, but, um, so I, I was in law enforcement. I ended up going federal and I was. I did that for total. Being a cop said 11 years.
Carmen Lezeth:How long were you a cop for? I mean all of it Like so we could just skip to the good part when you decide.
Kelly Quinn:I was. I was a cop for five years and then I put the feds for six for six, so 11 years.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, so you were a cop for 11 years. And what made you? I mean, I remember kind of this whole thing, but what? What made you be like, yeah, I'm done. Um, I mean, I was.
Kelly Quinn:I was well. First of all, I was just very unhappy with a lot of what was going on, and my husband who's awesome was like Well, what have you always wanted to do?
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah and uh, that's a good husband no, yeah.
Kelly Quinn:And and I was like well, what do you mean? He's like well, just like a, like a hobby or just what's something you want to do. I was like, well, I've always wanted to actually take real, you know, Acting classes and actually be able to progress. I've only taken just here or there. And so now my husband is like the total optimist and idealist, and I'm very much the pessimist and realist and like he's like, so why I love my husband.
Kelly Quinn:He's like so why don't you? And I'm like oh okay, you know it's so easy. He's like I mean, as long as you don't go to the most expensive class, um what you did, but okay, good, well, yeah well. You're bad Um, so Well, not my first class is my first class is Brad of somebody's house?
Carmen Lezeth:Oh, oh, I thought you talked about Um. I thought you were talking about Howard. Howard he's very expensive, I mean, but he's the best. I think he's the best, yeah, um, so then?
Kelly Quinn:Howard was not until I got that was later.
Kelly Quinn:That was later. Yeah, um, so I started doing those classes and got some headshots, uh, and then, just like it happens in california, literally again, my husband On a run being the most extrovert a person in the planet sees this couple walking and they had College shirts from trinity university. And he's like, oh, is that what? Like total stranger, this is him. Oh, is that from you know, san Antonio? They're like, yeah, so he just starts talking. He's like, oh, and then they finds out she's an actor, director, writer and her husband's a producer and they're actually writing a film about sex trafficking, which I that was. I did a lot of my undercover as a cop. A lot of it was about underage sex trafficking. Um, and he goes my wife is an actress, like she did this, you know, and I was like you did not say that. No, everybody says that when they meet this couple. Please, I'm not a real actress, like I was doing that, but I just sort of classes.
Carmen Lezeth:Oh, and he was like no, I think I hate that you say yeah.
Kelly Quinn:I know, and he's like no, they want your number Whatever. So anyway, that led to sort of my first. I mean, I'm like a glorified background person in that film called wake up and uh, but I was also a consultant for the law enforcement side of it, and so I met Janet through that's Janet Her, and through that project. Then she turned me on to Howard and so then she's the one who turned you on.
Kelly Quinn:Oh okay, yes, she was like you have to take his classes, and then I signed up. Okay, then we were there.
Carmen Lezeth:Awesome, that is so cool. I think there's also the uh line of humility versus Factual things. You know, like I'm not a real actress, yes, you are like. Well, go back and forth with it.
Kelly Quinn:Yeah, at that time too, that's how I felt. You know, now I wouldn't say that, but yeah, at that time I thought now she's like I'm an actress. No, I can just get out, I'm an actor.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, Do you have any questions? Because I feel because Rick don't even need to be here. He's like I'm gonna just jump the fuck off dude.
Rick Costa:No, like literally everything I'm thinking to ask has already been answered.
Carmen Lezeth:Oh, I'm sorry, I'm just trying. You know what I'm never gonna know? I don't think Tommy's coming on. Tommy, we hope you're feeling better, love, yes, he wasn't feeling that great, so he said he might not make it. But but do you have any? Rick, you know you could interrupt at any time, but I know it's hard because you know we could go back and forth.
Rick Costa:Well, we'll talk more when we get to Norman Lear.
Carmen Lezeth:Oh, oh. He don't give a shit about you, kelly.
Rick Costa:No, I do, I'm listening.
Carmen Lezeth:No, no, well, we get into spurs. I mean, I think for me it's also this kind of idea that I love your spirit and that we connect and that you're so much younger than I am. And I was just reminded of that because when we were in the green room, we were talking about how you've never actually seen or watched a full, yeah, show of Norman Lear, and you were like I'm so sorry. I was like Shocked and then I realized you're only in your 30s, right? You're like 31 or something, right. So I mean, yeah, I'm working with you. Yeah, you are, you're young. I mean you're in your 30s, it's just, um, you know, I? I mean a lot of the shows of Norman Lear were also before our time. We were watching reruns when we were growing up as well. So, rick, taken away with Norman Lear, since We'll need you to speak at some point in the podcast.
Kelly Quinn:But I did see the princess bride and he was a part of getting that.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, that's a great movie.
Rick Costa:So yeah, all these shows for us older 50 plus people.
Carmen Lezeth:Oh yeah, I'm just kidding Some of us.
Rick Costa:Um, yeah, I you know. If it wasn't for him they wouldn't exist. The Jeffersons wouldn't exist, archie Bunker wouldn't exist. All in the family.
Carmen Lezeth:Which one was your favorite?
Rick Costa:Um, you know what? Where's that list? I had a list.
Carmen Lezeth:I sent y'all a list, yeah, yeah.
Rick Costa:Actually the one that Currently even now still makes me laugh, and it was my father's favorite too. It was actually Sanford and son.
Carmen Lezeth:Oh see, and I never could watch that. It just wasn't my thing. I never could watch that. Well, well, I, I mean, I think I really liked him a lot, but I liked him more because he was also so politically astutes, right? So, kelly, I know that you didn't watch any of his shows, but I didn't watch mod either, but I didn't watch a lot of these shows because they were also before our time and, as I mentioned when we talked about I love Lucy, which he didn't have anything to do, I was also at rehearsal most of the time where I was doing other things. I wasn't home watching TV all the time but, um, one of the things that he is known for is, I guess Nowadays it would be considered, I mean, really taboo subjects at back.
Carmen Lezeth:Then it was too, you know, like all in the family, the big thing there wasn't just the race issues that he would play with and make us all think about, because Archie Bunker was a racist, racist, racist, bigoted, terrible person. But you loved him Because you, you, you wanted him to be better than what he was you know what I mean and you knew that he had a heart. He had a heart, but he was the epitome of like just Racism. You know what I mean. And also he was very sexist. His wife was supposed to be this, this and this eat it, you know. And and also she gets raped on that show, right, I mean, we don't, we don't see that, but she gets that. That was another taboo subject when she ends up. That was a big deal for that show. So you talk about what you talk about the 70s, you know. And Sammy Davis jr Was on that show. There were just so many stars that came on this show, but it was really well done. And then all the spin-offs, which was, uh, good times. And Jefferson.
Carmen Lezeth:Jefferson's and I mean Norman Lear every show seemed to just do a spin-off of a spin-off, of a spin-off which is also on heart of today. It's not really common.
Kelly Quinn:Well, and then one of his more recent things and that was just looking at the list, but it said it was like documentary America divided, and it was, yeah, about these different issues but with some big-name actors portraying that Seems like continued that trend, you know, going forward all the way up to more, whatever the you know mid 2000s.
Carmen Lezeth:Right. It seems sad to me, though, that like nothing's really changed for the better. I mean, things have changed for the better, but I don't know it sort of went backwards.
Kelly Quinn:Yeah, rick, how do?
Rick Costa:you feel about it since you've seen the shows, or yeah, I mean, I was watching somebody the other day and they were like you could never get away with this today. The stuff they said, whoo, never, ever, even today. It's like Especially the archie bunker. He's like the absolute, unbelievable list of all, and that's not a word. I'm believe this, but it is now. And, oh my gosh, the stuff he said it's like what? Oh my god, I believe you said that. But the part of him that was funny to me was he didn't care. He did, he spoke his mind. He did not care what anybody thought, he just Just learned it out.
Carmen Lezeth:Well, I'll tell you guys all a little secret. I never talk about people I know or name drop or whatever. And I didn't really know carol o'connor, but archie bunker is actually carol o'connor, that's his name, and one of my clients had lost her son to drug addiction and so did it. He and they knew each other very well. So I had the blessing, in a weird way, to meet him a few times when I first came out to the Los Angeles and I was like you know, like what do you do with that? Because I'm not actually meeting them, as me I was basically somebody's assistant and in the room, we don't mean, but it was always interesting to me that he is an actor.
Carmen Lezeth:He was not Archie Bunker, you know, and I think we forget that and I'm gonna bring it to a movie I just recently saw, which you all know that I wrote a blog post about it Maestro and Bradley Cooper. It's like any other movie A great actor will portray someone, but it's not indicative of who they are. They can bring a piece of them, like the great actors bring a piece of them to it, or they find the character within them, or whatever it is, but you have to be able to separate who the actor is from the character. And I think that was what was interesting about Carol O'Connor was I didn't even see an ounce of Archie Bunker, except that he looked like him, you know, yeah, and I wonder if it was hard for him. I wonder if it was hard for him to be a racist as a character, and then you know, yeah, I could see that Some people being mad at him.
Rick Costa:He's like it's just a character. That's not who I am.
Kelly Quinn:Yeah, Well, I think yeah as an actor, if you do, especially when you are talking about people who are playing villains for lack of a better, if we're just gonna overdo it.
Kelly Quinn:Right, If they do their job well, people do, they get, like you know death threats and it's like whoa, how can we talk about race unless we have the racist Like if you don't have it, you can't show it. We have to actually show the reality and the truth, even if it's a little, but I don't think it probably was. But just the point is, we have to show this, otherwise there's no way to open up the dialogue, and so somebody has to be that role and do it in an authentic way, because otherwise it doesn't work.
Carmen Lezeth:And he was still good at it because you also loved him. Like, even as people of color, we loved the show. We loved the show because it was talking about something and I don't want to talk for all people of color because I was way too young. I was I don't know five when the show came out, whatever seven. Right, we were all really young watching the show. But you remember it because everybody watched it, everybody watched the show, and it was kind of like the talk of the town afterwards or the talk of the next day or whatever people would talk about it. So you would hear all these adults talking about it and it was just like must see TV or whatever.
Rick Costa:I don't even know if it was on NBC Plus plus. Remember back then. It's not like today where we have hundreds of channels. We didn't. Back then it was only a few.
Carmen Lezeth:Right. Is there anything that you do as an actor, kelly, that you hate doing when you prepare for a character role?
Kelly Quinn:Is that too much in the weeds to ask you, but I'm just wondering the one, the most recent one I can think of, and it really was more of an audition that I didn't actually get and, yes, in my mind I got to portray the role for the audition and then I got redirect and essentially it was portraying this mom who, of a teenager, she's seeing a mom and her daughter gets pregnant like a proportion, and she is like you can't do that and I don't want to get into politics.
Kelly Quinn:I'm just saying that was the role, yeah, and I, the way I approached it was I am a mom, I have two daughters. Right, you want to talk about okay. You know, how would I, how would I get into this headspace? I sort of approached more of okay, where what could have happened in my backstory to where this would seem like the worst possible thing in my world to hear my daughter saying and I still had an element of, I would argue, warmth in there and also just the conflict of loving my daughter, just feeling all these things. And the redirect I got was to be very cold, just, oh, that's hard. And I and that was I went, wow, maybe if I weren't a mom, I was just going to say I'm not a mother, so I probably could have done it pretty easily.
Kelly Quinn:And that's like in the moment in the audition room. So you don't have like. Can I have 20 minutes? You know, you just okay.
Rick Costa:Yeah.
Kelly Quinn:That's hard to and I, I mean I did, I think, my best version of that. I think, probably for what they wanted. It still just wasn't holding Right. Um. So I think sometimes, when it's something where you have crafted a certain thing and then they're asked to just do the complete opposite and it feels like a really big stretch, that's when you get into them and I get there and maybe, if I you know, I could argue all sorts of things, but I think that was a difficult thing for me. Um, I think the worst, but I don't know if I'll say that's the worst thing. I just think when it's something where you're starting to get into, I'm having a hard time finding the motivation to do it that way. But if that's what they, that's your job, you're the actor and the director wants you to do it, it doesn't really matter. You have to find a way.
Carmen Lezeth:You have to find a way. So, oh, and I see what you've written and I'm ignoring it. These are, these are people that are not important, except for Tony, cynthia and Steven.
Rick Costa:Tony Tony's in the doghouse for today, I think.
Carmen Lezeth:Oh, tony's in the doghouse, yeah, all right, why Cause he? Was on one day, one earlier. Whatever, hey, kelly, no no, that's not how it?
Rick Costa:works baby. When you said cold mom, I'm thinking that old movie no more wire hangers.
Carmen Lezeth:I don't know who that is. What is?
Rick Costa:that, oh my gosh, it was like a. She was, I think an actress and the daughter she was just kind of.
Kelly Quinn:I know what you're referencing.
Rick Costa:Yeah, remember the title. Yeah, I can't remember either.
Carmen Lezeth:Whoo yeah.
Rick Costa:She was a cold.
Carmen Lezeth:Brian, she is married with children. Mitch, okay, no, he's like. Hi, kelly, I'm Brian. Yeah. So Kelly, he's Brian and he's in Texas. That's all you need to know about me.
Rick Costa:Yeah, it's what you need.
Carmen Lezeth:Yes, mommy, yeah, that's good, yeah, mommy, yeah, that's right.
Rick Costa:Right.
Carmen Lezeth:We love Cynthia. I love every single opportunity of acting I can get. I mean, I know you're the same way Like if somebody wants you to play something, you'll just do it. I don't think I've ever questioned anything. Look at, melanie, it's all about the editing. You're still right, melanie. But I will say one of my heartbreaking moments was when I got a big feature film. I had a small part in it, kelly, you already know about this story, but it was a huge film with big stars like Tina Fey and Bradley Whitford and all of these, and anyway, I got to do this little piece. I was. I was playing actually a cop who, um, a dog cop, whatever they're called, oh, and a canine yeah.
Carmen Lezeth:Whatever, I was up, whatever, and they were, and a news crew was interviewing me about a dog. I forget what the whole thing was because I blanked it out, but anyways, let me just tell you what happened. So I got this role all by myself. I didn't have an agent. It was a big time movie, it was a Ron Howard production. I go on set, you know, and I get to go on it in a trailer. To wait, you know, that never happens. You don't get no trailer night Right. So it was the end of the day shoot. I got to do the shoot and we had to do it outside on Melrose, and there was all this traffic that was stopped and there were actually cops there that were hired to move the traffic along, and then there was all these crowds of people like actually people walking by who stopped to watch this filming, which freaked me out, you know they were like can you imagine, like you're so excited anyways, but you're on this big production, whatever.
Carmen Lezeth:So I do my scene and I have to cry Like I am, I am a cop. But then I start crying because whatever, the dog, I don't know, whatever I'm so angry because I'm going to tell you what happened afterwards. I do the scene and the director was like excellent, cut, great. And they start watching the daily, like they watch it back Right and my label or whatever it was, my badge or whatever it was, was no, there was like a you know the end plate. Yeah, it had fallen while I was talking. It wasn't secure. So I had to do it again and you know I had to cry and everything and I was like okay, I got it, I can do this. He's like you sure I'm like, I'm good, I'm like can I just have some water? And like five people come with water, thank you. We take a minute.
Carmen Lezeth:I do the scene again and it was even better. It was awesome, it was great. I leave people clap because they know I'd been waiting all day, they know I'm a nobody actor, they know how stressful it was. We did the first take. It was great. The second take was better. That doesn't normally happen, right. Like nobody actor, I felt so good about myself.
Carmen Lezeth:I was like I am on point my life. I knew all this time in Hollywood. Here it is I got cut from the fucking movie. I got paid for the motherfucking day A lot of money, but I mean like a day of work. I forget it was like 1500 bucks or something. I had no agent or whatever. So it was amazing money, right, because I was a I am a SAG actor, but I knew I reached out to the producer because no one had reached out to me and usually wait within like two or three weeks. You kind of know when they start doing the editing. Oh, brian, please, you know you'll hear about it. So it was like six months, seven months later, whatever. And you know they told me that I got cut and they were like it's not you, I'm like it doesn't matter, like well my scene was supposed to be.
Carmen Lezeth:I don't know if it was Tina Fey or Bradley Whitford or who it was, but they were supposed to be walking into their hotel room and they were going to catch the news and they would see this spot and then move on. You know what I mean, and it would have something to do with their next scene. So it wasn't like a big part, but it was to me.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, of course you get cut for a lot of reasons. I mean, I edit now this little YouTube thing that we do and I edit shit all the time for the audio that Rick pride is a like or whoever doesn't like, or whatever. You know well, you know what I'm saying. Like, you edit things for a reason, because you need to make it tighter or whatever. But I went and saw that movie by myself because I wasn't even invited to the crew show and nothing which I thought was mean. I thought they should have invited me to the premiere or whatever. You know what I mean. Like, cause they do. The crew it's a guy and they thanked me in the movie, whatever you know. Like in the credit in the movie. But I went and watched that movie, which was the stupidest thing for me to do because I cried the whole time. I was sitting in the theater alone, I know, because I was so sad. But let me tell you something. That's the life of an actor, yeah.
Rick Costa:And it's not like today where they have you can get the DVD with all the deleted parts. You know probably have that back then, did they?
Carmen Lezeth:I mean.
Carmen Lezeth:I'm sure somebody has that and something like you make it big, they're gonna come out with it and everything. But I Mean I think they get rid of all that. But you know, I mean, why would they keep it? I guess I could have asked for it, and that's something I did because I was so in my feelings about it, I was so upset about it and I waited too long because I thought it would be in the movie. So it was a mistake I made, but yeah, that will always be my most heartbreaking, heartbreaking Moment in LA. Yeah it's.
Kelly Quinn:It's really hard. It is, it is very strange, going hard business. Yeah, you have to a, you have to actually enjoy Acting, the craft of acting. I mean. I know we can talk about people who just got famous to be famous and they've had success. But the when you think of the actors who are the really good actors, right, none of them got into it because they're like I'm gonna win an Oscar. They Love acting. And if you don't because it is the weirdest thing to do, if you don't love it, okay, I would say you know, howard finds us this.
Kelly Quinn:Do anything else you have to love acting is you have to love acting, which I I genuinely do.
Carmen Lezeth:I've read, and especially I love acting, but I don't like auditioning. Why, yeah, I like auditioning live.
Kelly Quinn:The zoom stuff is difficult for me and I think I'm you know it's you are.
Carmen Lezeth:That's newer.
Kelly Quinn:Now it's a skill and you have to, we have to do it and I I booked jobs with the zoom callback so, like I, you know been able. But Even if you have the most, you know blank reader, you know like they're giving you nothing in the room, which is fine right, it's still.
Kelly Quinn:Easier for me to give something to that than just I, because even when I'm doing zoom, like I can't, if I look at right at the camera, I'm not looking at Carmen, I'm looking at a little hole in my camera, you know like. So you want to connect with somebody Right and and go off whatever, and it's sort of difficult. So auditioning is really hard but I do really enjoy it.
Carmen Lezeth:I love being able to try acting, but I like theater, you like film acting I do, but I love theater too.
Kelly Quinn:I just right now I'm trying to yeah, he'd be in film more and I don't have a lot of theater training.
Carmen Lezeth:But, rick, you love acting I.
Rick Costa:Mean, I don't have never done it, but I mean you want to enjoy the all whole process of it.
Rick Costa:I've actually listened to a bunch of them lately that said, like we guys were just talking about now, it's all on zoom, it's all on video and they're like, it's just not the same. You know, and like you know, you trading the the nervousness, and they don't like me, that it on me, surrounded by people, being they, by being in the comfort of your home, but again, you can't see somebody, you can't play off of nobody. It's just, you know, it's just a bunch of looking for because, yeah, brian, I'll ask.
Carmen Lezeth:I'll answer your question in a minute. I think the difference that's really great about it being on zoom or whatever, on camera Recorded or whatever is you do get to see what somebody looks like on camera, which is actually what they're looking for when you're doing a film or TV show you know, I mean, of course, everything changes with lighting or whatever, and it's a lot for an actor to have to have all that.
Carmen Lezeth:But, sag, just part of what they put in this new contract was provisions that people don't have to have an elaborate setup in order to audition, because that's been costing actors a lot of money and also a lot of Jobs. You know, yeah, and Cynthia asked. I used Cynthia once to read that's right, because I was having a tough time finding someone and she read with me so I could audition Brian. I.
Rick Costa:That face said everything.
Carmen Lezeth:For some reason it wasn't. I don't think it was about that. I don't think it was a. I don't. I would have called you, but it wasn't a you thing. It wasn't something I could have you do. I Forget what it was. It's totally. I would have called you, but it wasn't that.
Carmen Lezeth:Um, brian asked being on location is better than the stage, and I think what he means is is filming Television, studio or on set versus being on stage? Let me tell you my, I love being on stage. I've done both film, television, and I've also done stage work theater, live theater. Here's why I love theater more. It's not because I think acting is better. You know, there's this snooty thing about if you're a theater actor, you'll bet that's not true, because I would give anyone Quarms to go up against Viola Davis or Meryl Streep or you know what I mean. Like, that's not how it is for me. What I believe is I'm really good when I get on stage and I have no choice but to perform Right.
Carmen Lezeth:You do not get to do a do-do over whether a phone rings or whether Somebody trips accidentally or you mess up a line or you're seen, but you just have to go with it and I'm really good and I love that. I love the butterflies and the nervousness for me and Kelly will have a different experience and we'll share it when I'm doing film. I haven't done a lot of television, but I've done quite a few films. Um, I don't like the repetitiveness of film acting.
Carmen Lezeth:So you go back and forth, will do a scene, like me, and Kelly will do a scene here, and then we'll have to then do the same scene again because Rick has to come in and walk by, so we'll have to do the scene again with the camera here. Then we'll have to do Kelly speaking, doing the scene again without me being in the shot so the camera can do her, and then we'll have to do the scene again with the camera pointing at me, and so I have a really hard time being fresh every time and being Alive in the moment. It takes such skill and such brilliance and when you're working with so many people. By the way, that's just the problems with the camera. There's lighting issues, sound actors fuck up their lines. I mean, you see scenes in a movie and they've probably been shot what? At least ten times.
Kelly Quinn:Yeah, I mean at least and that and then. And then you have to reset, like depending on what happens. If it's bad enough, it's like, well, there go 30 minutes and it's it's sort of a and you could be in the middle of like your monologue, you know like you're crying and they're like Cut and just Makeup comes over and she.
Rick Costa:And that's multiple takes right where there is no multiple takes, big emotional cathartic.
Kelly Quinn:You know, and when you're like me and you're not a big name actor Okay, it's takes six I'm like I don't know if I have tears left for you. You know, to like this is a lot of emoting over and over. And, like you're saying, like Getting because, as the actor. Of course we have the whole script.
Kelly Quinn:We know what's gonna happen, right, but the whole point of that moment that you're filming or that scene is that your character doesn't, so you have to be just as heartbroken, or whatever, and let it surprise you, and then you might not get exactly emotional. I mean, if you think you're doing it right, it's not quite in the same spot every time, because, unless you're a robot, you could just make yourself go, which I know some people can, I can't, I have to be really connected with it, right for that to come out.
Carmen Lezeth:That's what you take acting classes to, so that we yeah, but that doesn't work for me. Yeah but, I also admit. Let's also admit, people don't know this. Films are not done in order, so that's the other reason why yeah?
Carmen Lezeth:theater like theater you have beginning, middle and end and you start the play and you go to the middle of the play and you go to the end of the play. Films are filmed in out of order. They're never in order. So Kelly might have this horrible scene at the end where where her partner in business has died and she has to cry about that, and then she has to go and figure out how to tell you know the staff. And that's the first shot of the movie, the whole story. Yet it might be the end of the film or whatever.
Kelly Quinn:And the only and I'll just say this little time, because I've had a little tiny bit of experience with theater when I was in high school and what I loved about it is you had rehearsals and you're with this group of people and you're going through it and you form this like bond and connection and, like you said, you're going through an order and then you're going through an order and it becomes like a living thing almost with the people that you're on.
Kelly Quinn:You know you're on the stage with even if you're in the ensemble, you're not one of the main roles. And then, yeah, there's this excitement and then you get out on stage and it's so exciting to put it all together and you've gone on this journey together. Now, that's not always on TV and film acting especially TV if you're like a day player under five, which is hello, kind of my deal right now, I'm not bonding with these people. I have to come in. I get two seconds and a lot of times the rehearsal is literally while they're shooting, like they do one take and they're like, alright, do this for this take, and it's like, okay, and that's literally the rehearsal.
Kelly Quinn:You don't get all this time, so you gotta be ready to go and you're taking that from the audition room and now you have a set. The answer Brian's question of is on location. I think it's better because, of course, when I'm in my little room here pretending that I'm looking at a waterfall, I really gotta go into my head, obviously, because I'm not looking at a waterfall, I'm looking at my box, like when you're on the location.
Kelly Quinn:Yes, it makes it a lot easier in some ways to really get the vibe of I'm here and I believe it in my bones. I might not have to do quite as much work before I turn that. You know the camera gets turned on because you're there. But that that was my brief experience with theater and partially why I loved it, because I loved feeling like I was with, like this band of people. Michael Bubbles.
Rick Costa:Michael Bubbles hello.
Carmen Lezeth:Hi Michael Bubbles, who's he?
Rick Costa:calling.
Carmen Lezeth:Spider-Man. Oh, I do Spider-Man back here.
Rick Costa:Some of you have.
Carmen Lezeth:Spider-Man in the back.
Rick Costa:You know it was funny. I have a game at the end of my broadcast. I do every day, and today the question was who's the person that whispers the lines on the side in the theater for people that forget their lines? And I was like, oh, I didn't even think about that and it was Promptor. Yeah, promptor. I was like where's Carmen? We needed her today.
Carmen Lezeth:But well, okay, sometimes you forget your lines, but not when you're a professional. Here's the thing I always tell actors who come to LA. You know, because so many come and then they leave. If your biggest problem is you can't memorize your lines, you cannot be an actor like I don't even play the game, like oh you know what here a different way? No, that is like thing number one.
Rick Costa:It's like a surgeon fates for seeing blood. I mean yeah.
Carmen Lezeth:You kind of have to know how to memorize your lines. You got to just figure that out. If you could pick a character in a movie that you wished you could play, rick, who would it be? Is there a favorite character?
Rick Costa:I was going to be funny and say, jack O'Neill, just because of you.
Carmen Lezeth:Stargate is the one. Oh my god, we're sci-fi buffs, kelly, if you haven't figured it out, with his whole thing in the background.
Rick Costa:If we were to go with that show, I'd rather be. Daniel Jackson, be honest with you.
Carmen Lezeth:Really OK, I know. It's not your favorite, but I like Michael Jackson, dr Daniel Jackson I like the geekiness, but yet super smart, but yet kind of awkward. So you would like to play that role, like in that show. It's like Star Trek, but not Star Trek, it's Stargate, like the movie. Ok, so you would want to play that role for all 10 seasons.
Rick Costa:I should be Vin Diesel. He said Rick should be Vin Diesel. I need a lot deeper voice role.
Carmen Lezeth:Kelly, what role would you want to play? If you could have played any role that's already been done? Ugh Wow.
Kelly Quinn:It could be film or television. Well, tv role that I can think of, and when I say I grew up watching this, when I realized that I was like I don't think it should have been allowed to watch that at that age, but I would be Scully. Oh, x-files, x-files. I used to watch that one when I was like 10. And my mom used to be like Rick, don't let her watch that. But I love that show.
Rick Costa:Yes, we love that show too. We love that show too.
Kelly Quinn:I mean, you know, Jelene Anderson is amazing.
Carmen Lezeth:She's an amazing actress. She's amazing.
Kelly Quinn:And she's just like not that she was bad before. Obviously she was amazing before, and then she just keeps doing amazing things.
Carmen Lezeth:Well, because she's grown as an actress. I mean, she's just an incredible, an incredible presence. But you could see it even like, if you watch the pilot because you know I watch that every once in a while too, because it's free on Karmic or free on Pluto She'll just like lay up at night, we'll watch it, whatever. And they had the pilot on and I was like, oh my god, they were so young. Yes, I know.
Kelly Quinn:Yeah, I say that, but yeah, it's so amazing, I mean I'm trying to think of. I feel like there's so many that I just go oh. Now. So my brain goes blank because there's too many that I would want to play. But that one came to my mom when I was thinking of TV because, yeah, that's a great one.
Carmen Lezeth:I love it. I'm jealous. I didn't think of that Investigated the scientific element of it.
Kelly Quinn:I love that, and especially her to mold her.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, that's where I would have failed, because I would have not been able to say all the words that she says. But yeah, no, I actually was thinking about I wish this is going to be weird, but I loved the movie, even though it should not have been better than Color Purple back then. But out of Africa, I wish I could have played the Bell Streep role with Robert Redford. I'm just saying y'all have no reasons.
Carmen Lezeth:No, but I mean any role that Meryl Streep does, and now I look at Viola Davis kind of the same way, the ability to take on any role and make it so exquisitely brilliant. And every time I think of her I mean I don't know if I could have ever. Even I wouldn't even touch Sophie's Choice, right, meryl Streep and Sophie's Choice is crazy, amazing.
Kelly Quinn:I mean she's amazing.
Carmen Lezeth:She's amazing. But I think I could have done some damage on Out of Africa. I don't know if it worked because you know skin color thing and everything, but I'm just saying if we could be out there playing, you know, and the love interest. But yeah, what, rick? I know you're trying to say something.
Rick Costa:No, I was just going to say maybe in the future they'll do like a sci-fi version of Out of Africa, and then you could be hit.
Carmen Lezeth:Oh, not a sci-fi version. Did you ever even see Out of Africa?
Rick Costa:Yes, we talked about this movie. I was mad because Color Purple didn't win the wars. Because of that.
Carmen Lezeth:I know Color Purple coming out though. Yes, I'm a 20-gif.
Kelly Quinn:I know I would also and this is probably going to sound funny, but because I know my type, which is always like procedural, which I get, but I would also like to play. I'm thinking of, well, there's two roles in the help that I would like to play Jessica Chastain's role.
Carmen Lezeth:In the help.
Kelly Quinn:Yeah. In the help. I can't remember her character's name. Yeah. But I mean in that movie it's just the acting across the board is amazing, and obviously Viola Davis isn't it.
Carmen Lezeth:But that's what she won. She didn't show, no, she didn't win for that Not for that one. No, no, no. She won for the movie with Meryl Streep and the Nun. That's where she won her Oscar.
Kelly Quinn:That was so good.
Carmen Lezeth:And see her screen time was like two minutes. It was like ridiculous. It wasn't that much at all. And that thing is when you see somebody you go.
Kelly Quinn:she was barely on the screen and you remember it just impacted on you. You know what I mean and I was just like why is this one not in everything? She is now Well yeah, now she is, I mean obviously. But at that time I don't know that she was as well known as she is now.
Carmen Lezeth:No, she wasn't. That's when she first started. I mean, that's when we were starting to get to know her. But OK, here's my question Is there a role you'd never want to play?
Carmen Lezeth:Rick, I would play anything In my perfect world I think I've told both of you this In my perfect world, if I could work as an actor and never audition ever again because I don't ever want to, I'm not going to audition anymore. That's why I'm creating my own space. I mean, I hate auditioning, but I would want to be like a Klingon in Star Trek and only like the cult, to know who I really am. Like I've always thought that if I were going to be an actor, it would be as with amazing makeup or whatever, and in a way, not hidden, but only real people who know the show or the movie would know it was me. That would have been my favorite, because the idea of being unable to walk the street because you're so famous, that would make me nauseous.
Carmen Lezeth:Like I've seen it. I've seen people I mean, I've worked for people who have to deal with that. I used to have to really deal with it. I wouldn't even want that. Brian just said I'd love to play a villain or a villain's right-hand man yeah, that I could see. Or Jim Holden. Who's Jim Holden?
Rick Costa:I was talking about the expanse, the pre-look of the previous. Oh, I've never seen the expanse.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, a role that you guys would not want to play, if any at all? I don't know that.
Kelly Quinn:I have one that I wouldn't. I feel like it's such an active thing I want to try.
Speaker 2:I want to try everything. Just give it to me, let me see what I can do that.
Kelly Quinn:I have to say villain, would be really interesting especially if you had a lot of a really great story where you had an act like a three-dimensional villain. You know what I mean. Somebody that's got all this going on and there's a reason why they kind of got into and became the way they did. I would love to do that Right, but that's what I'm telling you.
Carmen Lezeth:The first time I had an issue when I did, I didn't have an issue, but they asked me. I did a short film and it was about. It was in the beginning. This was years ago, in the beginning of when we were starting to talk about transgender and I played the aunt of the person the lead who is transgender, and that was a big deal in the audition. Would we have a problem? And I was, like I'm a problem of? I was confused as to what the problem was. We had read the script. Why would I be here?
Carmen Lezeth:But I remember that being an interesting, because short films are a little bit different. When people are doing independent films, they want to make sure everyone's comfortable with the subject. But I thought it was weird that they asked after they gave us the script and the sides If you didn't figure it out, you know what I mean. I remember when I met with an agent they were like would you do a nude scene, would you do a lesbian scene or whatever? I'm like are you paying me and it's tasteful? Yes, if Steven Spielberg asked me to do a nude scene, yes, but if it's a porn thing, no, yeah.
Kelly Quinn:I think if it makes sense within the framework in the story of the character and the whole story as a whole, ok. But if it's just I mean gratuitous, just so that we can get the shot of some blonde right? No, no, you know what would be the thing.
Carmen Lezeth:Ricky, are you going to answer the question or not?
Rick Costa:All I could think of is, if I mean not that I might mind trying to play a villain, but if it's something where it's a murderer and you're seeing me actually murdering somebody, like really violating rules, it's a character though I know. But then, like I don't want, there are some of my life people like, oh, I remember you killed that girl, like they would just be weird for me.
Carmen Lezeth:You would be. That would mean you're a great actor, because they remember you. It's oh, I would play a murderer and a heartbeat. What would be the most challenging role to play? Well, that's a great go, brian, that's a good question.
Rick Costa:I guess it would have to be something that is completely opposite of who you are.
Kelly Quinn:I think for me, which I've thought about. This definitely agree with what Rick just touched on, something that's very opposite you in a nor like in whatever your sort of baseline personality is.
Kelly Quinn:But I've found that you can usually find that if you access. But when I'm with my kids I'm like this, or when I'm buzzed I'm like that. So how do I tap into that energy? But not because I'm buzzed, but because I'm using it for the character. But I do agree with that. I know for me, yeah, if I was playing a influencer you know, if you're doing the stereotypical Gen Z influencer that would be hard for me because I'm not. That's hard for me to access and I'd have to figure that out. You know I love you said Gen Z.
Carmen Lezeth:Are you Gen Z? No, no, no, no, I don't think I could, but I'm totally messing. I was messing with.
Kelly Quinn:I.
Carmen Lezeth:Cynthia said I would love to play any character Zoe Ceylon, another great actress he played, because she is amazing. She is amazing. And then Brian said meeting Kane hotter was awesome childhood dream come. I don't know who that is. Should I know who Kane hotter is? Okay, um. So I remember another great Acting coach I had, who was not Howard. Fine, I Never promote this place because I think it was one of the most horrible places I took acting classes at, but this one instructor made this great point. He's like we've all murdered before and of course, the whole class was like Hell's he talking about.
Carmen Lezeth:You know what I mean. I was like whenever a mosquito bites you and you go like that or you get rid of a roach or whatever it is. That is exactly the same type of. That's a morsel of what it is to play that character Right. That's where you would take some of that from this.
Carmen Lezeth:Most murderers, when they do all the psychological Background information, they don't think that they're murderers. They're justified in doing what they think they're doing right. So I mean, that's the thing about acting is Anyone who plays a villain or plays a bad person or a killer or a serial killer, whatever. The reason why we end up sometimes sharing for them or the abuser or whatever it is, is Because you put some humanity in them, because you realize they think, from their point of view, they're doing the right thing or they're doing it for a reason. So you can't look at it as a murderer. You have to look at it as a person who thinks he has a reason or right to kill, and then it becomes a much more interesting Character.
Carmen Lezeth:Right that I would play a murderer in a heartbeat. In a heartbeat, I would do it. You kidding me. I would love the real game. This is what I love about acting. I love the research. Baby, give me the role. I'm a research. That shit, I'm a beyond point. I had to do a play Called I forget the mirror, clean house, I forget what it was, but I had to do a Portuguese action. I told you this, rick. I did the research. I did. I was so good. I met with people who were Portuguese, got the accent down.
Rick Costa:I was thinking about. There was a show, tom Holland did it, the one that did spider-man. And it was was on Netflix, I forget, but he played a character that was multiple personalities. Oh yeah, there was a really, really good show. I forgot what it's called, but, um, that I think would be challenging, but I think that would be fun. Like remember I told you, carmen, when Daniel Jackson was inhabited by that would be fun. I think that would be a fun.
Carmen Lezeth:Such a skill of acting. That's what people don't understand. So in Stargate SG one, daniel Jackson, the character walks into a ship and he inhabits the souls of people on the ship. His body consumes the souls and he starts. Each soul comes forward in his body and starts speaking. So he's like a, like a eight-year-old kid. He's a captain, he's a crew member, he's a woman, whatever, and he goes in and out of it. It is a spectacular episode. Just to watch his ability. I don't know why people don't love sci-fi. I mean, his Level is on point. Yeah, yeah, I would not want to do that because it would be too hard for me. I will be honest about that. I think that would be hard.
Rick Costa:We did, he did.
Carmen Lezeth:I'm not that good.
Rick Costa:He did say challenging, so that's why yeah challenging.
Carmen Lezeth:Chris Hemsworth actually is a much better actor than people give him credit for. I amazing in extraction and extraction too, and those are not usually my genre, but you know I'm gonna see that boy. You mean anything, anything, okay, but he was really good. He's a great actor. I think he's a great actor.
Kelly Quinn:I think sometimes too, because he's been in, you know, in these more action things, but people Don't realize that how good that person and I think maybe like Bradley Cooper too, like he was kind of A pretty boy right, if we're gonna label somebody but he's an amazing actor.
Rick Costa:What's that word? Typecasting?
Kelly Quinn:Yeah, typecasting, you know, and so sometimes it's like these people are incredible actors and you're sort of Trying to get like. I remember they did. I think it was on the Graham Norton show when he did um ghost busters. Chris Hemsworth did the first ghost busters.
Carmen Lezeth:Oh, that's right with the women.
Kelly Quinn:He's like yeah, cast and they were all talking about how they're like. We never rooted so hard for somebody to be a complete Like a hole and he was not, you know. And then they're like he was so funny, it's not hilarious he is very funny. Yeah, and they were like he was amazing and it was just so funny to hear them all be like we really wanted to. Not like you know, not like him and then Incredible sweetheart.
Carmen Lezeth:He's a sweetheart. He just seems like a sweetheart. I don't want to hear nothing bad about him either. I don't come to me with no nothing. I don't want him getting divorced. I don't hand none about Chris Hemsworth. He is like we're gonna package him and leave him alone. Who's James McAvoy? Should I know who that is? He was he did.
Rick Costa:Xavier in the younger X-Men.
Carmen Lezeth:Oh, yeah, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Rick Costa:That was glass, that was wow. Yeah, he was that.
Kelly Quinn:Yeah, glass is what I was thinking. Yeah, and he was in atonement. He's been in a lot of stuff.
Rick Costa:Yeah.
Carmen Lezeth:So look at, I'm gonna wrap this up. I just want to say a few things. Number one I want to wish Our friends, all of our Jewish friends, or anyone who celebrates, I want to say, happy Hanukkah. I guess happy Hanukkah is probably not the best way to say it right now, with everything that's going on, but I want to wish our Jewish Friends and anyone who celebrates a a wonderful and beautiful holiday season. Today is the first evening of Hanukkah. That's number one. I do want to give love and joy to Norman Lear and you know we talk a lot about allies, you know we we kind of throw that word around, but he actually was somebody who took all these risks at a time back then when you really shouldn't been able to, and I just hope we can all be more like that, taking risks to do the right thing, no matter what you know, to showcase people who are marginalized or Treated badly just for being who they are and exist like um gene Ronberry, do you mean interrupt you?
Rick Costa:But yes, no.
Carmen Lezeth:That's. That's a great point, just like gene Ronberry, I mean. So I just wanted to say those things. And then the other thing I'm going to say, which I always say, is Facebook people have been adding on the page rick, I think in the past, like I don't know week. We now have like 80 people. I had like five people on facebook and now we have like 80. So thank you, thank you, thank you, linkedin, people love you so much. Youtube we can have some more youtube followers please. I would appreciate some more youtube followers. But you know what? We're just really grateful that you guys come, kelly, thank you so?
Carmen Lezeth:much for coming on the show. I hope you'll come again, yes.
Kelly Quinn:I will. I I mean thank you so much for having me and nice to meet you.
Carmen Lezeth:I'm will you come on when, when, when you get your first nomination and everything. I just want that recorded.
Kelly Quinn:Yes, I will.
Rick Costa:I want to thank Carmen for reading with me.
Carmen Lezeth:Her people gonna call me and be like um. We have changed our number and I'll say no.
Kelly Quinn:She don't know what you're talking about. You know, she knows that's not how I mean. I think that's one of the things that I'm grateful for about getting into at this point, because I just I actually want to do it and I feel like I have some type of grounding.
Carmen Lezeth:No, you have people who support you because we believe in your talent and and you know we're not gonna bullshit you and you know what I mean. Like I think that's the hard part is people. Whatever it is you want to do in your life, you have to get the right people around you to support you, not just anybody, not just everybody. You got to get the right people who're going to tell you the truth and who's gonna say to you we love you, we think this is good, we think this is bad, but we're gonna be here no matter what, and and I and I that's the only kind of people I want in my life. I don't know why rick's here, but he got something. Thank you, michael. I appreciate you stopping by and we will keep shining our light. I don't know how powerful it is, but thank you. Um, good night everyone. Thank you and remember it's always all about the joy. Bye, thanks for stopping by. All about the joy. Be better and stay beautiful folks, have a sweet day.