Have you ever wondered how a single joke can polarize an audience, or how an awards ceremony can unpredictably crown a new star? Our roundtable discussion peels back the curtain on the Oscars, revealing Emma Stone's unexpected triumph and diving into the edgy humor that targeted Robert Downey Jr. Join us as we navigate the laughter and critique that follow such public spectacles, all while emphasizing the importance of fully engaging with media before drawing conclusions.
This episode isn't just about Hollywood's glitz and glamour; it's about the stories that connect us. Feel the warmth of our camaraderie as we talk about Charlie Mattera's podcast episodes, how Carmen and Maurio met, and yes, giving homage to the legacy of Ryan O'Neal. We also reminisce about the banking world's peculiar charm, and tackle the ever-relevant quest for a healthy work-life balance, dissecting generational shifts in labor attitudes and the empowering act of setting personal boundaries.
Finally, we wade through the murky waters of online misinformation and the debate over TikTok's ownership, challenging you to think critically about the media narratives you consume. We also take a deep, introspective look at American identity, addressing the diverse experiences that shape our perspectives on national symbols and inclusivity. Whether you're seeking insight into the complexities of workplace dynamics or you're hungry for a thought-provoking conversation on societal issues, our lively exchange will provide you with a rich tapestry of viewpoints to ponder long after the episode ends.
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Music By Geovane Bruno, Moments, 3481
Editing by Team A-J
Host, Carmen Lezeth
DISCLAIMER: As always, please do your own research and understand that the opinions in this podcast and livestream are meant for entertainment purposes only. States and other areas may have different rules and regulations governing certain aspects discussed in this podcast. Nothing in our podcast or livestream is meant to be medical or legal advice. Please use common sense, and when in doubt, ask a professional for advice, assistance, help and guidance.
Have you ever wondered how a single joke can polarize an audience, or how an awards ceremony can unpredictably crown a new star? Our roundtable discussion peels back the curtain on the Oscars, revealing Emma Stone's unexpected triumph and diving into the edgy humor that targeted Robert Downey Jr. Join us as we navigate the laughter and critique that follow such public spectacles, all while emphasizing the importance of fully engaging with media before drawing conclusions.
This episode isn't just about Hollywood's glitz and glamour; it's about the stories that connect us. Feel the warmth of our camaraderie as we talk about Charlie Mattera's podcast episodes, how Carmen and Maurio met, and yes, giving homage to the legacy of Ryan O'Neal. We also reminisce about the banking world's peculiar charm, and tackle the ever-relevant quest for a healthy work-life balance, dissecting generational shifts in labor attitudes and the empowering act of setting personal boundaries.
Finally, we wade through the murky waters of online misinformation and the debate over TikTok's ownership, challenging you to think critically about the media narratives you consume. We also take a deep, introspective look at American identity, addressing the diverse experiences that shape our perspectives on national symbols and inclusivity. Whether you're seeking insight into the complexities of workplace dynamics or you're hungry for a thought-provoking conversation on societal issues, our lively exchange will provide you with a rich tapestry of viewpoints to ponder long after the episode ends.
To see the entire video, please visit our YouTube page:
https://youtube.com/live/cG3NaFibhPc
Thank you for stopping by. Please visit our website: All About The Joy and add, like and share. We'd appreciate that greatly. Also, if you want to find us anywhere on social media, please check out the link in bio page.
Music By Geovane Bruno, Moments, 3481
Editing by Team A-J
Host, Carmen Lezeth
DISCLAIMER: As always, please do your own research and understand that the opinions in this podcast and livestream are meant for entertainment purposes only. States and other areas may have different rules and regulations governing certain aspects discussed in this podcast. Nothing in our podcast or livestream is meant to be medical or legal advice. Please use common sense, and when in doubt, ask a professional for advice, assistance, help and guidance.
What was that? Hey, everyone, welcome to All About the Joy. Hi, rick Costa.
Rick Costa:Hello, hello.
Carmen Lezeth:Rick's all in Gangsta today and Cynthia, thank you for coming by. Oh, look at who else is in the house. Hey, mario, how you doing.
Maurio Dawson :Hey, good, I'm trying to figure this thing out now because you want to be on ReachedMeme. Yes, pushing buttons and whatnot.
Carmen Lezeth:And Julia's going to be here in a little bit. She's having a text and she's like I'll be there but I have to drop off her daughter. She goes, I have to drop off my daughter somewhere and I'm like somewhere.
Cynthia Lopez:I was like that's the way we're on the side of the road.
Carmen Lezeth:I was like just make sure you drop off somewhere, you know. But she responded and she was laughing. She's like I've been school, it was just funny. So, Mario, I think you're hot, and I don't mean caliente like you're beautiful, though that too but I mean your. Your voice is very loud.
Maurio Dawson :Is it? Is that better, Shall I shall. I speak in the middle of the tone.
Rick Costa:We're going to be Bob Ross today, painting a painting, talking very softly.
Maurio Dawson :Yes, please, we're going to be ocean, as I paint waves as we go to the beach, and then we paint the sickle monsters, happy trees.
Rick Costa:Some clouds up here.
Carmen Lezeth:You know what I forgot? I forgot the list. I sent you all of other things you're going to talk about.
Maurio Dawson :I thought the Oscars was on there. I thought about Charlie, I thought about tic-tac and he's supposed to be like.
Carmen Lezeth:Hey, carmen, what do you mean? A list? Let's just go with the flow. You know what let's talk about Charlie's podcast.
Maurio Dawson :Let's talk about Charlie's podcast. What do you think?
Carmen Lezeth:Let's be like spontaneous and like I'm such a cool host and you guys are all like. You know what? That's our thing, man All of us. That's it now Okay, did you guys watch the Oscars?
Rick Costa:Yes, I just saw the highlights on the ABC website.
Carmen Lezeth:Oh my God, I'm just going to be like, let me just take you off of here and I'm just going to be removed.
Cynthia Lopez:Swipe to the. It was good. It was good, I liked it. They were. There were actually a couple of good moments.
Carmen Lezeth:You thought there were only a couple of good moments, yeah.
Cynthia Lopez:I mean, it wasn't, like you know, a big hoopla, but you know it was good.
Maurio Dawson :Honestly, I got to say it was predictable. The only thing that threw me off was Emma Stone. Everything else. I was surprised because the young lady from killers out of the moon. She had been winning everything, including the SAG, and normally the person, the people who win SAG are normally the ones who go on to win the Oscar because the same people are voting in both categories. So I was just. I was surprised by Emma Stone. She was a dark horse that came out of nowhere.
Rick Costa:So other than that, I don't need to see John Cena naked again.
Carmen Lezeth:I love that. I was laughing. I thought that was such a funny cause. It was about costume. That was the whole thing.
Rick Costa:Yeah, I mean, do we need to talk about somebody's penis Like, come on, what's penis?
Andrea Nunez :What.
Rick Costa:Iron man. Did they talk about his?
Maurio Dawson :penis. I missed that, robert Downey Jr who.
Rick Costa:They talked about his penis. What's the guy that hosted his name. His name is I'm a. What are you?
Carmen Lezeth:talking about Okay, did you watch the I-Mate?
Rick Costa:I went on the website and they said here's video highlights. And one of the things he said was something about his thing. And I'm like bro, that's no, no.
Carmen Lezeth:Okay, wait. This is why you should watch things from the beginning.
Rick Costa:This is not hearsay. I saw him say it.
Carmen Lezeth:I know what you're talking about, but what I'm saying is you're taking it out of context. That's the problem. It's still there. Robert Downey Jr was sitting in the front row. That's what you're talking about, the monologue. Look, you know I'm going to get mad because this. You know what? This is. What's wrong with our country? This is the same shit.
Rick Costa:We need to talk about. Penis is freely. Is that what's wrong?
Carmen Lezeth:I was talking about his penis. He just made a joke and maybe it landed wrong, but it wasn't like the end of the world. All he said was something about like I forget what it was, but it wasn't big deal and they moved on. I actually thought the more insulting part was talking about his drug abuse. So you can't take it out of context, like I mean, it's just a joke.
Maurio Dawson :Yeah, that was kind of a low blow for Kimmel. It was low hanging fruit, it was not necessary, you know get it done without it.
Carmen Lezeth:It was just oh my God, I get annoyed.
Rick Costa:I just felt bad for him. Why Do?
Maurio Dawson :you get annoyed about penis or you get annoyed about it.
Rick Costa:Oh my God, it's still going left.
Carmen Lezeth:I get annoyed because, because, because what Rick did? I know a lot of people do it. We don't want to or we don't have time or whatever, to maybe watch the whole thing or look at all in contact Right.
Carmen Lezeth:So, we'll we'll watch the highlight but this happens with articles all the time. Like people will read like one headline and then you'll see all the comments. I can't believe she did that. What a bitch. How about did you read the article? Because it was not even about her Like. So I just get. I do get incensed. Was it a bad low hanging fruit? Yeah, but that's not the whole Oscars and you tie that in. So you watch snippets. So you watch a P. You heard a penis joke.
Rick Costa:It was like 13 minutes of him talking with 13 minutes of him talking about hey Tony. Hey, tony hey.
Carmen Lezeth:Tony hey, tony hey. Andrea, andrea, who dumped her daughter somewhere with nobody. She drove, carmen. What is she like? Eight Cause I am not that old for her to be driving. What's happening? How you doing? We're fighting right now. I'm fighting with Rick. We're talking about penises, context. Did we not just say context? Welcome to all about the joy.
Andrea Nunez :I'm an expert. I'm an expert.
Carmen Lezeth:Today we're talking about joy oh you're fall to you. You brought penises. Rick is going to be like Carmen. I want to hand in my resignation. I'm going to close what? Let me just say I didn't even really know who John Cena was till.
Andrea Nunez :I was that bit, so that worked for me. But Rick.
Carmen Lezeth:I could see how you maybe heard that piece and then saw the John Cena thing and that, let me just say the best part is my gosh Ling singing. I had no idea, unbelievable. Yeah, did you guys? Okay, living on fact, he used to sing in the.
Maurio Dawson :Mickey mouse club back in the day with Justin Timberlake. No, I didn't. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. No, I didn't either. No, I didn't know. That wakes me up. That was my. My car didn't even appear because I had no idea Even for one day. Mark full あああああ, didn't even realize that All I did From the way he was singing and the way he was singing with Justin Timberlake, with Justin Timberlake, christina Aguilera.
Andrea Nunez :All of the Britney spirits.
Carmen Lezeth:He was in that whole crew before that Oscars is. They are too long, I fell asleep.
Andrea Nunez :Well, they started it early, you know they started at four o'clock.
Carmen Lezeth:For that reason.
Maurio Dawson :Yeah.
Carmen Lezeth:It was just a fun time. So, interate, did you watch Oscars? I think not, right.
Andrea Nunez :No, I was on a plane, but I did.
Rick Costa:I actually did.
Andrea Nunez :I did catch the Ryan Gosling thing, though like that was like right when I walked into my hotel room so I kind of watched, but not really I was super tired. So I don't have anything to add to this other than it was fun.
Carmen Lezeth:And I'll ask Rick this because I know Rick watched, I listened to and watched Charlie's podcast. I did a two-part private lounge with Charlie Matera and I just I just want to give a shout out to him because I love him and I know that he's probably listening, but it was so much fun and I've gotten I can't believe it I've gotten so much feedback from both of those things, from people, which is kind of cool. So I don't know if you guys got to hear it, but what I love about it the most is like just he's such a great storyteller at Rick right, totally, totally.
Rick Costa:Yeah, I liked. I'm like he's talking about his script and everything. I was like, well, I don't know if he would give it all. He goes, that's already copyrighted, don't worry. I'm like when is this coming out? Because it sounds good.
Carmen Lezeth:The thing is, too, I cut out a lot. I cut out a lot because he act, there's more to the story of the script and I cut out like a whole chunk. That is actually kind of a twisty. I'm not going to say, I'm not going to put that, but there's a huge twist to it. And he and I was like I got to cut that out because there's no way that someone isn't going to try to steal it or whatever. But he, yeah, he's totally chill and I think a couple of people emailed me and said I can't believe he was in prison. I'm like why, why are you so stunned and him talking about?
Rick Costa:Farrah Fawcett. That was pretty funny too. That was so much fun.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, yeah, so thank you to Charlie, and if you haven't listened to it, there's two different parts to it and I hope you can take a moment and just get to know somebody who is not just one of the coolest people I met out here, but very fascinating and a great storyteller.
Maurio Dawson :You're super close to Ryan O'Neill, right? Is that how you guys know each other or met each other?
Carmen Lezeth:I met Ryan O'Neill because he owned it. He owned a gym here in Brentwood and I met Charlie outside of BC Goat Dough. And really we kind of said this a long time ago, rick, I forget which episode it was, but it was when we first met Charlie on the, on the podcast, on the live stream. We were just checking each other out because that brother was fine as well. I mean, he still is.
Carmen Lezeth:I just he was, you know, he had the blonde blonde here and he was so cut and built and whatever, and he was just and he was walking around town like he owned it. You know what I mean, one of those people and of course at the time I lived in Brentwood. We were outside the famous restaurant you know, like at the end of it was Mesaluna, which is where it's famous for, where Nicole Simpson and Dan Goldman right, yeah, roman Right, so that's the restaurant that was right there next to it is was where BC Goat Dough was. So it was a pretty well known area and that's where I first met him and then we had mutual friends and and then, yeah, the gym. I guess I never hung out with him in the gym, so not the whole of the level of working out that I was never out.
Maurio Dawson :Right.
Carmen Lezeth:But yeah, and Ryan passed away this past December, so yeah, I remember, so it's kind of sad, but yeah, anyway, I just wanted to touch base with that too. Mario, you have the list. What else is on the list?
Maurio Dawson :Well, we talked. We talked about Charlie already. We touched on the Oscars.
Rick Costa:Oh, so that's what the Oscars.
Maurio Dawson :Oh, we touched on the Oscars. We just we got stuck on a all about the joyful thing, this part.
Rick Costa:And then you just I think Andrea wants to say something and then get past it.
Andrea Nunez :I just I don't, I don't think I have met Mario before.
Maurio Dawson :Oh hey, how are you?
Carmen Lezeth:I'm so sorry. I thought you know the name was. So sorry, andrea, you know who Mario is. I'm just probably going to click for you when I tell you this. I met Mario when I worked at Brand New School. He was our principal banker at City National Bank, and so we got to know each other through that, and you can only imagine the conversations during that time in my life when I was so happy and joyful.
Maurio Dawson :And I, and I too, were happy in Joyful City National Bank.
Carmen Lezeth:And we loved working the jobs that we did and helping people become wealthy and wealthy, are we?
Andrea Nunez :Yes, yes, bankers are well known to be very happy, joyful.
Maurio Dawson :We are joyful people. Entertainment people are joyful people.
Andrea Nunez :Well, it's nice to meet you, Mario.
Rick Costa:Nice to meet you too. I also wanted to say I was she almost brought me a little teary-eyed with the woman. I think her name is Devine.
Cynthia Lopez:Oh yes, Devine, Devine's going round off.
Rick Costa:Her speech was like oh, you want me to cry. Stop yeah that was nice.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, she was good. You know what that whole? Category was great this year it was great and I was upset that. I mean, I just felt like you could have. I'm waiting for a and we have a tie. You know what I mean? Because I just feel like it would have been so much cooler if, like three I think three of them could have been easier. Yeah, because.
Cynthia Lopez:Danielle. She was an amazing girl. Danielle was a beautiful girl. Sorry, but I'm going to say it. I think she did a better Sophia than Oprah, oh yeah, but you was amazing.
Maurio Dawson :There's enough love no, you know, you know why. The color, the original is one of my all-time favorite movies, so like I get it. But the thing is I always have this debate with my friends about the original and the remake because they're totally different in terms of this. Wouldn't want being the musical, but Danielle, if If you guys don't realize, she's an egot nominee now. So she's been nominated in every category. So she's, she's on her way. She's just give her a couple of I would have voted.
Carmen Lezeth:I voted for her and sag awards because I thought yeah amazing Um. I do it was hard for for both of them. You don't mean to not give. I anyway, I just wanted the tie, but yeah. But, I wasn't thrown by the holdovers.
Maurio Dawson :No, I Watched all the movies just this year. I slept two part of Oppenheimer but and the killers of fire? It bored me to tears and not, but I tried to push through. As my grandmother said, I went fishing.
Carmen Lezeth:I'm just glad that movies are back to being pretty amazing. Knock on wood, you know we have good ones and we have bad ones, but I thought it was fun and I will say this for the Oscars I thought it was a really great show. The bar is so low but I really thought it went well. I thought Jimmy Kimmel penis and all was fantastic. Sorry.
Andrea Nunez :I think I missed a really important part of the show.
Maurio Dawson :Hey honey, hi baby, I'm missing.
Andrea Nunez :I missed it. No, no.
Carmen Lezeth:Andrea a loose. A loose whose name is Alma, in real life that's my wife. Mario's wife, yeah.
Cynthia Lopez:Carmen, you know the person I met, mario to.
Carmen Lezeth:Can I just say I am, I'm so sorry, but I just I think this is what I mean by the neighborhood like we just all such good friends, I'm realizing, mario, cynthia, Cynthia, mario, I apologize, I didn't that's right.
Maurio Dawson :This is my first time eating both.
Carmen Lezeth:I didn't know this. You know, if I had a good co-host slash producer, I would have filled me in on that. Somehow there would be like a little note or something like the only.
Rick Costa:Past the buck thing.
Carmen Lezeth:I miss that what.
Rick Costa:I like that past the buck.
Carmen Lezeth:Hey, you know what I think? It's actually a testament to the fact that I think y'all know I.
Rick Costa:Now, andrea, I think I kind of back my name either, but I thought Cynthia.
Maurio Dawson :No, but they've. I've seen them, they've seen me, we've all seen each other.
Carmen Lezeth:But we've never been on at the same time. No, that's cool, that's cool. I'm sorry that that's my all just kind of mesh well together, so it really is working.
Maurio Dawson :It's the red beans are right for me. That's just on the.
Carmen Lezeth:For me okay.
Maurio Dawson :Literally just make your beans all right.
Carmen Lezeth:That's why I say Because and you know what I forgot to say happy pie day as well today is. I know none of you Probably even care what that is, but it's a math, a math.
Maurio Dawson :Yeah, 314, 3.1 forward.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, so let me just see here. Oh, I wanted to talk about this because I was hoping Andrea would be here, so I wanted this is gonna be more of a work thing. And going back to this quiet quitting crap, I Responded to a woman on on a tick tock today and I have not been on tick tock other than posting our clips from the show. But I'm like, oh, they're gonna ban tick tock. Let me do a post, let me jump in the end of this. But she is clearly somebody who does a lot of I don't I don't want to say life coaching, but that's what the umbrella will put it on because that's what it feels like. You know what I mean and I've never seen her before, but she was talking about quite quitting. And she got into this conversation About how you shouldn't be doing quite quitting, that if you're not getting that job or you're not getting that promotion or you're not getting that raise, and then you decide not to give it your all, what does that say about your integrity?
Carmen Lezeth:Oh my god so then she goes on this. Let me tell you what the comments were like so beautiful. I was like, oh, hey, gen Z, I know y'all Gen Z in here, but I wanted to talk about was I feel like people who are Gen X and boomers and I'm not saying everyone, but clearly I think she was. You know our age, you know, and I Think we're stuck in this mentality of you got to work really hard, you got to be dedicated, you've got to do what you got to do to Prove yourself and even when you don't get that raise or you don't get acknowledged, that makes you have to do it even more, and I was like I don't think so, so enjoy. I wanted to see what you thought.
Andrea Nunez :Yeah, I wholeheartedly disagree with that right. You owe your job, the hours you are paid for, right, that's, you know, like that's the exchange right. And if you're passed over for promotion, if your boss is a jerk, your co-workers are jerks, you still have to pay the bills. You still need health insurance, you know? I mean like we don't have the Social safety net in this country. To be like this is no longer fulfilling for me, so I'm gonna take a pause until I find the next thing right. Like no, you still have to put food on the table and somehow be a human person walking around on the planet and not be, you know, completely aggro. You got do what you got to do, honey, like, just if you need to, like, create some separation, you know, some mental space. I I don't here's the issue. I like I read that when you said in the email and I I hate that moralizing about work.
Andrea Nunez :Yes the, when you like the word. Integrity is like Are they stealing? Like literally stealing? No, they're not. They're there, they're doing their jobs right, Like they're not Undermining other Pete. You know what I mean. Like there's just something about that. That's like you have to hold yourself to some high moral standard, you know. It's like I'm good to job.
Carmen Lezeth:Well, I think I think we got it wrong growing up. I think we we grew up Learning at least I did learning that if you suffer, then you're good. So if you're, you know, I mean, if you are Sacrificing and if you're really doing all you can, then somehow that makes you a better person then then the person that's just going in and Doing their job and leaving, and what I've realized in my life and I don't know if this has happened to any of you is the more I put into a company or a person or a client, the more likely they don't give a shit when they get ready to fire me. Move on, layoff people.
Andrea Nunez :The Lord. Yes, I have this experience right. That's one of the first things I learned when I started doing consulting. I can't want this more than you do. I can't be showing up trying to like make this go and like doing the jobs of people who actually work there Because I wanted so bad for you. You know what I mean. Like this is that whole idea of you, know just. I just hate all that that moralizing about it. Yeah, I'm sorry, I just was at a client all week. I just got home today, like a couple hours ago, so I'm in it.
Maurio Dawson :I love you for coming on the story for you guys of a place long, long ago where someone got terminated high up in the company and and one of the senior vice presidents came out and said we know this is all very Jarring for everyone and I'm sure everybody's shook up. But just consider this a pebble in the water that creates a ripple, and the water just keep on flowing right on after that and say have a great day, go back to work.
Carmen Lezeth:That was a good thing that they thought that was.
Maurio Dawson :Yes, yes, I will never Took that with me when I left. I'm like you know what? Do we know it? Because that lets me know you really don't care.
Carmen Lezeth:Let me show you my part of the ripple bitch.
Maurio Dawson :That part. Why am I just behind for you? You know I'm saying you don't care.
Carmen Lezeth:You don't care, I'm gonna just, and I tell everyone, if you die today, replace it will be here tomorrow and you'll get in.
Cynthia Lopez:Maybe I agree with everyone. And I'm going through it right now like I've worked at my place for over ten years and I was always yes, yes, yes, I'll do this, I'll do that, thinking that same mentality. And now I'm like no, they asked me to do something today and I said no, I don't feel like doing that. And they're like oh please, I said I'll think about it. They knew I wasn't going to do it. They found someone else to do it. I said OK and kept them moving.
Maurio Dawson :Yeah, I agree with you, alma. Take time, take personal time off and take vacation. Take the time to go see your family, Spend time with your family, because those are the people who care about you. That job is going to be there, that you are a pig in a wheel that can be replaced. So you know you can be replaced and that's the whole thing. And then you have people who want you to work over your eight hours and expect you to do extra work and take it gladly, and then they don't understand. Well, why are you working? We're trying to find you and you're gone. Well, my time is up.
Carmen Lezeth:No, no, my time is up. We're a family here. We're a family. No, no, no, we're not a family. We're not a family, yeah.
Andrea Nunez :The people who are quiet. There's an issue going on, there's some kind of issue happening there that they are unhappy with, that is unaddressed, and so the companies want loyalty, they want people to go the extra mile, they want them to take on extra work and stay late, and all of those things. If you want me to do more, what are you giving me for that? More and a lot of times it's just the expectation of it, with nothing more being offered most of the time.
Carmen Lezeth:Well, I told someone in a day that they're confusing me being a CFO with actually what I do, which is business management. I said the difference is about $400,000. So you want me to be your CFO? We can have that conversation. I totally did, but I'm just over here making my little money, so I'm just going to do this part, which is what we agreed to. You want me to pull up the contract.
Cynthia Lopez:I was like Cynthia, you were going to say that that I like the new acronym some of the new teenagers have for the BTL, which is Prepare the Others, Because I want to be here, I want to be here.
Andrea Nunez :I'm going to use that. Hi Brian. Hi Brian, brian's right though right, you're here with your family and you scoff, it's like OK. Most families I know are pretty damn dysfunctional Come on now. Tell them, I don't like my family though.
Maurio Dawson :Like you might not want to bring out my family I'm like. Well, I take time away from my family every day.
Carmen Lezeth:OK, let me get Rick in there, because then I won't be able to have him in the show anywhere except for the parts.
Rick Costa:I mean I'm going to do the best I can, because I have to live with myself and feel like I'm trying, I'm doing the best I can, doing my part. I have many times gone above and beyond, especially during COVID. There was days where I was literally just to catch up. I was up till 2 o'clock in the morning not getting paid, and I know that's crazy, but I was like I don't want this company to go under, because a lot of companies of this type are going under. So I'm helping him free, but at the same time I'm helping this company not go down, because if I don't, then I got to look for another job.
Rick Costa:But, like we've talked about this before, once that time is done, 5.30 hits, buy. Like I ain't thinking about the job, no more, it's done Again. Yes, we did this in the beginning, see, but yeah, I start exactly at 8.30, and I finish exactly at 5.30. I'm out my lunch break. I do not exist on my lunch break either. Like, no, like, no, no, no, no. I'm going to do the best I can. I'm going to support, try to do extra if I can, if I have time to do so, but don't ask me to see.
Carmen Lezeth:I think CEOs, owners of company, need to change their thinking, and I'm stealing something from Gary V who you all know I love which is this idea that if I own the company, I'm the one who has to be working the most, not the people who are working the most, and I love that you can't expect me to care about the company the same way you do Issue your company.
Rick Costa:You don't want to make it a big buck not me so you can't expect me to care like you do. You're going to go out of your way. You're going to do definitely way more if you need to.
Carmen Lezeth:But let me see what Brian just wrote. Work ethic is slowly dying, with the younger generation Lack of leadership. I disagree 150%.
Maurio Dawson :Yeah, me too I disagree.
Carmen Lezeth:Not true at all. I think the younger generation which I'm talking about, gen Z, at the moment actually is doing this right. Their priorities are not to kill themselves, working for people who do not pay them more than minimum wage or a living wage, or making ridiculous profits and then turning around and not giving anything to their workers. Gen Z is saying I'm going to work smarter, not harder. And this world of social media and technology, they have the ability to say you know what? This ain't working for me. I'm going to go. And we're all pissed about it because we have old school thinking. When I say we, I mean like Gen X, I mean Gen X and like Boomers. We're in that poverty mentality of like no, I must stay and I must work hard and I must suffer and no, I think they got it right. I love all the Gen Z people I work with far more than I'm going to just say it. Gen X people I work with. Gen Z people just seem to be honest about who they are and what they want.
Andrea Nunez :Yeah, they're very direct about what they want and they have boundaries, right, yes. And there's like and they'll say I am going to take my time off, yeah, 100%, you know. And it's like how dare they take their? Those kids don't want to work. Like, do you give them PTO? Are they? Is it fake or do you not mean for them to take it Exactly?
Carmen Lezeth:Alma just said exactly Carmen, we taught our daughter to know her worth and to work hard and play harder. Uh-huh, I have definitely lost my Gen Z daughter, gigi. Welcome to the show. I'm glad you're here. I feel like it is so different for health care workers, definitely overworked and underpaid, and even your breaks and lunches. You are working because your patients need you, since you relate to that, and that's a ball game, I understand.
Maurio Dawson :Yeah.
Andrea Nunez :I mean there's like a spectrum right Like I believe you know I see a lot of companies. So do you, carmen, like most people, work pretty hard while they're working?
Maurio Dawson :Yeah.
Andrea Nunez :You know, yes, there are some who are, you know, dicking around on social media or whatever they do, and, you know, taking advantage. That is not the majority, though. Those are the ones that everyone's talking about and the other.
Cynthia Lopez:Because I'm agreeing, I'm agreeing, I totally understand, I agree. Yeah, no, absolutely. We all work hard and you know, a lot of times our lunches are interrupted. Oh, I know you're at lunch, but do you mind doing this, or you know they'll be real quick. Oh, I need help with this, or I need an interpreter for that. And you're always getting interrupted. You have no time for yourself, that's crazy.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, jessie, I can't believe you're here. Hi, I love you. Wow, thank you for being here. Sorry, everyone. This is one of my family friends from back in the day. I lived in her house growing up.
Maurio Dawson :Baby.
Carmen Lezeth:Jessie, I adore you. Hi, sorry about that. I get thrown when even though all these people that are on my Facebook page I get thrown when people actually show up and come into the show, sorry. Well, yeah, I think it's a tough time and I think it's more Jen X's fault Because we want to. I think every generation does this thing where we always want to find fault in the generation coming up and I'm not saying that there isn't some issues with Jen X, we can have that conversation too. But I think when it comes to this work stuff and I think quite quitting is the wrong word I think we need to come up with something else that's more positive, because it's not about quite quitting. It's about, like, I'm just doing my job, as you hired me to do in the agreement, that's all I'm not doing, any more than that or any less.
Maurio Dawson :It's setting boundaries. I think it's just as simple as setting boundaries. These kids, they say look, we have a contract from nine to five. Now I work for you from nine to five. Before nine is my time and after five is my time. Now, thank you very much, I'm out and they don't have a problem doing that, and I think, with a lot of us, I think we're teaching the younger generation how to do it better, versus like my parents. My mom, particularly taught me how to do better than she did, and same thing with my grandmother she taught my mother how to do better than she did. So it's just about learning the lessons and passing them down and the kids taking the wisdom from each generation and trying to do it better. I think that's really what this is about, and I think the people who are in the older generations are pissed off. Well, why don't I think of that? I think they're mad because they didn't think of them, but they're stuck in what they've always done.
Carmen Lezeth:Let me read what Melanie just wrote, because I think it's very important. If you can work smarter not harder more power to you, but someone has to be the janitor or you will be, working smarter, in a very sticky place. Melanie, we appreciate all hardworking people, so I think the idea of working smarter is more about putting up like what Mario said and what Rick had mentioned putting up boundaries. So it doesn't matter what job it is. If you're working past your eight hours and you don't get overtime and you're coming in on a Sunday because there's then, I think, ceos and bosses and people who hire other people managers one of the biggest things I do is tell them you're treating your staff wrong.
Carmen Lezeth:People will hire me to come, and they do this with Andrea too. They hire us to come in and fix the problem with their teams. Right, that's usually the gentle thing that people come to me about and I will tell you I've said this a million times 95% of the time my problem ends up being I have to talk to the person who hired me. They're the problem, not the team, because they're abusing what the team is willing or able or capable of doing. You know what I mean. So this is for everybody. This is for every industry. It's about making sure you have boundaries so that people aren't taking advantage of you. And then people like me and Andrea, who have the privilege of being able to work with people who hire us, we tell them the truth, which sometimes works, and we get more to work or we get fired.
Andrea Nunez :That's all the competition.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, they want someone to come in and agree with them Yep, it's all them Especially when I make sure I get you know my I don't know how Andrea does it, but I get paid a month in advance. So like my bill goes out on the 15th of the month prior to the month they have to pay me. So like I'll get paid this Friday for April. So I come in, they get mad or upset once I do my assessment and they fire me. I'm like that's all good, thank you, I got like three weeks off the whole day.
Cynthia Lopez:That's all good Please.
Rick Costa:I've had several jobs where, like when it comes to lunch break time, they all stay at their desk and eat, and then I'd be like, okay, I'll see you later when you going. I'm gonna go get some food. Are you gonna come back when my break is over? I'll be back.
Carmen Lezeth:Right Done. You know what we used to do at the company I almost said the name of the company. Anybody who knows me knows where I used to work. But we used to turn around and we would buy, we would cater in food, we would have cuts for people to take naps, foosball tables. Mario, you know, we had a beautiful building and everything. All of that was designed for you to never leave the office, leave, and it worked. Let me write. Let me read what Jesse wrote. I think it's okay to work longer hours to get my own tasks done, but it's important that we know our firms appreciate it, appreciate and recognize the effort. That's usually through bonuses et cetera. No one should feel like they are not seen Exactly. That just summed it all up. That's exactly what we've been talking about.
Cynthia Lopez:This is my third year without a bonus. Yeah, why? Because of budget, they're building all these new buildings that are half empty and, oh sorry, there's no money for your bonus this year.
Carmen Lezeth:Isn't it even worse when you see them building stuff and they're telling you they have no money, I just want to shoot.
Cynthia Lopez:Then they get a seven million dollar donation from an actor and her husband for one of the centers and again, we get no bonus. Then just recently, they sent out a survey for all of us to anonymously tell them how we feel about our managers and if our managers are doing their jobs. Let me tell you, the president sent an email saying she heard us and it's across the board that the managers are not doing their jobs and it's noted and they're going to fix it, blah, blah, blah. The following day it's administration or staff appreciation, whatever day. And what did they do?
Cynthia Lopez:Instead of appreciating everyone, they only gave random people gifts, like, just random, like they announced it in the email. It's like either you do all, you do none right and you don't announce it to just kind of throw it in your face. You just told us you heard our problems, you heard our issues, but then you're going to turn around and say, oh, we take your, your information and all your input, these wholehearted, and all this and that, but you know, oh, we can't give you anything. So no bonus, no gift, no, nothing.
Carmen Lezeth:I think your company should spend a lot of money and hire Andrea to come in and fix these issues. Gigi said I think Google is like that. Now they provide everything for their work. Oh yeah, I mean all the big.
Carmen Lezeth:I mean we didn't invent it, but I mean all the tech companies that started, I think, with like Apple, you know, back in the day so yeah, alma said I do not eat in the lunchroom, I arrange it so I have a private space to eat, because people don't respect your time and if I work one minute, I charge 15 minutes of overtime.
Maurio Dawson :Good, she does, she does. That's the truth.
Carmen Lezeth:Really good.
Maurio Dawson :She does the truth. Yeah, she's like one minute, okay, 15 minutes, and she's like 20 minutes of an hour, whatever you know.
Carmen Lezeth:Brian just said I'm lucky with the company I work for. I have a lot of perks there. My team is awesome. Yeah, brian, you really love where you work. It's good because really it's a rarity and it's something to be very grateful for. Go ahead, nj. I'm sorry.
Andrea Nunez :I said they're treating it right.
Carmen Lezeth:Ben, that's good.
Maurio Dawson :Yeah.
Carmen Lezeth:I think he's in a management position, though that changes things a bit, you know what I mean. Like I'm not saying that his workers aren't, but he's also, I believe, in a management position, which most managers are always pretty fine until they're not, you know. I mean, it's kind of nice to be the person in charge until you know, things fall apart in your team socks or whatever. Jesse just said. I have an amazing firm as well, thank goodness, 26. Wow, okay, let me explain something to you.
Carmen Lezeth:Jesse is when I was in Collegard and Drum Core. So I remember when Tommy Lee was here. So Jackie Dunne, who's also in my book, was like my best friend and we, you know, we hung out all the time. We were always doing rehearsals together. We were like best buddies. So I ended up living with them basically for a long time. And Jesse is the little kid who was like 10 years old. So there's no way you're 26 years working anywhere. It was like a little 10 year old kid. So when she just rolled that, I'm like what I got his heads. I have been denial. Let me tell you, I have been denial. I really am. I cannot deal with. I keep thinking like, oh my god, I'm so happy, I'm like I'm not 50. And then, like I'm talking to Charlie and Charlie's like yeah, and he's telling me like I think he said he's like 65 or something what I was like.
Maurio Dawson :Tommy, remember, you remember coming to Alma's baby shower. So come on now Stop and my baby graduates from college next month.
Carmen Lezeth:See, no, no Time is going to look at you, I forgot. Look, I'm just saying I think time is amazing and and I love it, but sometimes it throws me and I'm like, yeah, did it go by that quick? And now this little kid is graduated from college.
Cynthia Lopez:Yeah.
Carmen Lezeth:That's all I'm saying.
Cynthia Lopez:Yeah.
Carmen Lezeth:I've seen 26 years. I don't even envision you 26 years old.
Maurio Dawson :Let alone working at that for 26 years.
Carmen Lezeth:That is the coolest thing ever.
Cynthia Lopez:You couldn't even remember how old I was.
Carmen Lezeth:You couldn't believe it I know, because I still don't, because you're another one who's still in my head as a little kid.
Rick Costa:Her baby is 27.
Carmen Lezeth:She said she said oh my god, yeah, I. You see what I'm saying when I just give a little 10 year old kid in your head, that's what you're thinking and I'm like, oh my god, look at little Jesse is on the show in the comments. It's so cute. Oh, it's like a live car. We got it together. Hey, you know what? If my show bitch, I can do what I want. Right, have a moment.
Maurio Dawson :Do you, do you.
Carmen Lezeth:No, that is so cool. Yeah, no, I look at. I hope that we figure out a way to change things, and I think Andre and I kind of have the same philosophy when it comes to work. I find I do more work with the people who hire me than actually the teams. I don't know about you and Dr. How does that sound? What do you do? Is it the same thing?
Cynthia Lopez:Yeah.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, yeah, and it's like learning how to speak to people. Like, like one of the clients I work with, I'm constantly just telling him how great he is. Like I'm like, wow, I wish I understood all of that. Like it's just amazing. You know what? By the way, I was wondering could we buy two new computers? Because you know, just as you were saying, like the reason, it would just be easier because it's faster. And he's like, of course, yeah, by the two computers, no problem. He has no idea that I just because if I had just walked in and said can I have this approved, we'd be having a huge fight of spending money. But I have to coax it with, like how great he is and oh, if I can research faster on the better computer, you know. So these are people who need new computers.
Carmen Lezeth:I think I spend most of my time doing that, learning how to manipulate people to understand and get past their egos.
Cynthia Lopez:And they've done that.
Rick Costa:Yeah, my computer was ridiculously slow and my boss couldn't understand why I wasn't finishing things. I'm like this piece of crap computer. I can't get nothing done because I have to say wait every first five, to wait 30 seconds for the screen to change. Yeah, it's too slow. Ok, come on. So we finally got a new one.
Carmen Lezeth:All right, so is that it? Are we done? I'm just kidding. No, I'm just kidding, ok. I'm still a little in shock.
Maurio Dawson :Come on back girl, come on back, bring it back.
Carmen Lezeth:Talk amongst yourselves. Talk amongst yourselves.
Rick Costa:Well, what else is there to talk about? You said you were talking about the. You said that somebody talked about the.
Maurio Dawson :Congress. The House passed a bill to and it was it was on both sides to if China doesn't sell their part of TikTok, that it'll be banned in the United States. And now it's gone to the Senate for approval and if it's if it's on both sides, and most likely it will pass, and President Biden said that he will sign the bill.
Carmen Lezeth:Ok, and I just want to say that I'm completely aghast that we are at this point, because it's all bullshit, and I don't know when the last time you went to the gap or you went anywhere and noticed that things are made in China all over the place. You know what I mean, because China is no, china is. They're not sending any more propaganda than Facebook or Twitter or any other social media. Let me tell you what this is about from my point of view. Ok, from my point of view. If you haven't figured it out yet, somebody in the United States wants to buy TikTok, and why is that? Because TikTok is so lucrative and there's over, I think, 150 billion people and I'm billion million people using this every single day. So what the United States is trying to do and you know, I love my country less and less every motherfucking day, but I love my country. But if you haven't figured it out yet, what they're trying to do is get in a position where an American has to buy TikTok.
Carmen Lezeth:Yes, and this is all under the guise of security, where, in fact, we do business with China all the time, everywhere, everywhere we do big companies. All Pinterest has Chinese ties. There's a whole list of them. So it's all a farce and it's all bullshit and it's sad. It's sad to me because we should be better than this. If you want to do something about social media, let's talk about putting some guardrails on social media. We can have that conversation. But like just singling out TikTok with this farce of scary Chinese people are stealing your information. Google has my information. Okay, I'm worried about how much Google. All I do is sneeze about a Samsung television.
Carmen Lezeth:I'm getting some television stuff and, oh and, where is Samsung from? So this is my thing, stop it, stop it.
Maurio Dawson :I think part of it is political. I think some of it's a little political, because I know that I think our Gen Z pulled a prank on Trump and about that rally and that was all done through TikTok and so and they all went in and bought all the tickets to a rally or something and then no one was there. Yeah.
Carmen Lezeth:It's just getting out of hand. And all this being scared about. You know China, I'm fine with it. If you want to divest every single company that does business with China, then I'm all for it. Oh yes, let's protect ourselves. But making it just about TikTok, it's all bullshit.
Maurio Dawson :Samsung is Korea. But my point isn't about. My point is about?
Carmen Lezeth:my point is is that? Did you say it was Chinese? It doesn't matter. The point is is that Google has all my information? Yeah, and no matter what, facebook has all my information Right. They own WhatsApp. They own Messenger. They own.
Maurio Dawson :Instagram, instagram.
Carmen Lezeth:All of our information is out there. This is all a farce. Okay, if you have an issue with China, I want you to go through all of your clothes tomorrow and see where you bought them and see where they came from. Go and look at all the plates you bought. Look at the stuff you have in your house and then look at all the companies that have connections and ties with China and then you're going to start to understand that it's all bullshit.
Carmen Lezeth:It's because somebody in the United States wants to own TikTok. It's always about profit in this country, always, and I'm all for it, but not when you're lying to me. Do not lie to me to make money. Do not lie to me. Just say you want to motherfucking buy TikTok and we're good. You know what I mean. Just say you know what? This is a great, lucrative thing. I think we should pull away from China. We should own it. We can make profit here, blah, blah. I'd be all for that shit, right? I'm sorry it is all about good joy, but you've got to be factual about this shit. I'm so done with this country lying to us and getting us all up in the frenzy.
Maurio Dawson :I love it when you get robbed.
Carmen Lezeth:You just get like wow, just say it with the whole chest. Tell me how you get it.
Maurio Dawson :No.
Carmen Lezeth:Not at all.
Maurio Dawson :Not at all.
Carmen Lezeth:I'm just tired of the scare tactics. I'm tired of it. You know what I mean. I mean go ahead. I'll let other people talk now.
Maurio Dawson :No, no, you said it. You say it like you mean it, you don't. I'm here for you.
Carmen Lezeth:Don't get me started with Elon Musk. But okay, gigi, I hear you, yeah.
Maurio Dawson :Do you heard about that with him? And Don Lemon, right that Oh-Hoo thing. Don Lemon did an interview with him Because Don Lemon was supposed to be doing a show that was supposed to be going over to X, and I guess Don Lemon really challenged him and called him on the floor about his anti-Semitism comments and all this other stuff, and he really called him on it. And so then all of a sudden, elon Musk backed out, but at that point it was too late. My dog is about to bark. Sorry, it was too late and you know, but now he canceled the show on X. But Don Lemon's like look, I got the truth and it's coming down no matter what. And so people are really some people don't care. You know, that's the bad part. Some people are really upset about the interview. Some people don't care about the interview. Some people are like I'm giving away my Tesla lives. You're lying.
Carmen Lezeth:You're being all my Tesla, you're lying. I love when people protest my damaging the stuff they bought.
Maurio Dawson :Why would you do that, Like yeah?
Carmen Lezeth:I'm against Budweiser. I'm going to dump it all up. Ok, budweiser already got you on my bed.
Maurio Dawson :Ok, don't buy it I mean whatever. Go off. I guess you know like whatever.
Carmen Lezeth:OK, but, brian, misinformation is everywhere. But you know what? That's been forever, that's been our entire lives. The difference is now because information is so easy to get, it's so easy to verify.
Carmen Lezeth:We lazy motherfuckers. We so lazy we just go watch one little thing. I'm not going to bring it back to that, rick, I'm watching, just saying we do this shit all the time. We have to get better about reading entire articles before commenting, watching entire movies or programs or whatever. Before commenting, do our research. Misinformation has been around since the beginning of time. Remember Snake? What was it? Snake oil salesman.
Maurio Dawson :Yeah, snake oil.
Carmen Lezeth:This thing is just now. It's just so abundant and we're lazy motherfuckers. Don't be a lazy motherfucker. Let's go big, let's go big Stay with your host.
Rick Costa:Yes, this misinformation. She been around for a long time. She ain't going nowhere.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, but we could be better. We could be better, and that's why this thing with TikTok bothers me. I don't give a shit whether you like TikTok or not, I don't care, I use it just to promote myself. I started doing it again. I'm just tired of the lies. You know, I'm really, I'm really upset. And now, when our country is doing this as a government continuously and I know Andrea, I can already see Andrea's like I've always been lying to her.
Maurio Dawson :She's been called a far.
Carmen Lezeth:She's like that, I can tell you, I'm glad you're seeing it.
Rick Costa:It's the X file.
Andrea Nunez :I'm so glad you're seeing it. But yes, yeah. Thank you for catching up with me.
Carmen Lezeth:She's like we're dying over here. I'm like I'm sorry I know I'm going to fight it today because I'm just I'm really tired of not just the lies that are going out, but that we're just so easily gullible to fucking take it in Like no, find the truth. You know what I mean. And I'm just about to say that that's the worst thing that was just saying that X files what.
Rick Costa:That's why I was singing a song. The truth was out there. X file, yeah.
Carmen Lezeth:Steve Mananchin, who was the Treasury Secretary under Trump. Steve Mnuchin.
Rick Costa:Yeah.
Carmen Lezeth:He's putting a group of people together because they want to buy TikTok. And wasn't that interesting? This is the same guy who got like bazillion dollars from the Saudi government as he walked out of the White House. How come, you know, all up in arms about that, but now him and a group of his friends want to buy TikTok. For our safety. For our safety, of course, please, please.
Maurio Dawson :And Rick Austin was turning it back.
Carmen Lezeth:I don't know. Ok, well, I feel like you guys got to give in some more input, because I just too much on fire.
Maurio Dawson :No, no, no, no, no. It was joyful to watch you. It was all about the joy.
Andrea Nunez :It was all about the joy.
Maurio Dawson :It was all about the joy, and it was joyful to watch you Stay with your whole chest, just your whole chest. It was love, you know what's going to happen now?
Carmen Lezeth:I'm going to get all these damn motherfucking emails about me swearing that's what's going to happen.
Andrea Nunez :Right, it's going to happen. I'm going to be like what. It brings me joy to see you finally seeing it?
Maurio Dawson :all that's it, because it's all about the joy.
Andrea Nunez :OK, how long is that going to be Long?
Carmen Lezeth:enough. No, wait, wait, wait. Ok, we're going to get into this fight. We can, andrea. Andrea is a how can I say? Or used to be a liberal hugging tree crazy person. Yes, you were. That's why we used to get into fights, and I'm more in the middle.
Andrea Nunez :I don't that has a connotation, but yeah, I know that's why I said it.
Carmen Lezeth:So people don't understand. Ok, liberal liberal, liberal, liberal, liberal, liberal, and I'm not Liberal liberal, but I'm not on the right at all. I'm not on the right at all. But, I'm like middle, middle, and I was much more stupid. Kind of hate using this word because it's bullshit. Right Like you can't even say the word anymore because they've stolen and co-opted patriotism. I used to be patriotic in a different way than Andrea was. We were getting into fights about it, andrea Hippy. So what up, brian? What's Serenity now? Serenity. Is that what he wants.
Rick Costa:That's from Sly's, sly's, sly's.
Maurio Dawson :Sly's.
Carmen Lezeth:Hey, we in the hood, here we hanging out. This is how it happens. You know what I mean. We're just chilling and I'm on fire tonight. That's all that's happening. That's it, andrea would be a hippie. I don't understand.
Maurio Dawson :Because you call her a tree. You call her a tree-hugging liberal.
Carmen Lezeth:But is a hippie a bad thing? I'd rather be a hippie than whatever it is. We being over there in Texas. Brian, is a hippie a bad thing, or tree-hugging thing a bad thing? I'm confusion. I'm asking to explain.
Andrea Nunez :Yeah, I mean it has a crunchy granola breakfast kind of content.
Maurio Dawson :Yeah, that's yeah.
Andrea Nunez :Who was?
Carmen Lezeth:wrong with that. I would rather be that I'm not saying, there's anything wrong with it.
Andrea Nunez :I just am saying I don't think it's accurate.
Carmen Lezeth:Today it's not accurate, but I'm saying me and you, me and you together, we were those kind of people. I was more conservative.
Andrea Nunez :The more centrist and I was much more like you know, Lefty, I'm going to vote for Al Sharpton.
Maurio Dawson :Well, damn, ok, you were real left.
Carmen Lezeth:That's a hippie, that's a hippie, that's a hippie, that's a hippie. I love Al Sharpton but I was not going to vote for him.
Maurio Dawson :Oh my god, look, even Mario was like what is wrong with you? He said Al Sharpton, I was like, come on, please, come again. I did it in the primary.
Carmen Lezeth:I voted for Al Sharpton oh.
Cynthia Lopez:OK.
Carmen Lezeth:Jesse, I was saying I'm not sure a tree hug in liberal is bad. I think it's exactly.
Andrea Nunez :No, it's definitely not bad, I'm not the same was bad, I just didn't think it was accurate. But anyway, go ahead.
Carmen Lezeth:I'm just saying with me and you. It was accurate, Because I had an American flag on my car up until recently.
Maurio Dawson :Was so high.
Carmen Lezeth:I would never and Jerry would never have an American flag on your car.
Andrea Nunez :Never, I never had, never would, never could, never will.
Carmen Lezeth:I never will, even because I'm sad. I need our country. I'm not talking about our government. I need people in this country to get better Better about racism, better about homophobia, better about all the isms, better about sexism. We got to get on point. Got to get on point. Mm-hmm, we started on race. We don't usually talk about race, but I will go down there because I'm in the mood today.
Maurio Dawson :I got time to date.
Cynthia Lopez:I got time to date you know we all started with that Right.
Carmen Lezeth:Right, carly said it, though. He said, you know, it's just wanting people to be better. It's true, wanting people to like. That is what I want. That's what I want the show to be. I mean, I keep saying it's all about the joy, because I want people to start thinking and being real, you know, and being. Stop listening to everybody else and do your own research and be really solid and be open-minded. You know, and if you have a problem with people who you think are others, the problem is you, it's not other people Like. Why hate so much? Why hate people that you don't understand? And stop using the motherfucking Bible for everything as your excuse for why you do stuff. That's not what Jesus would do. I'm just saying sorry, I don't mean to throw the Bible in there, but you know a lot of people try to throw the Bible as a reason for justifying what they do. Stop it.
Maurio Dawson :Yeah.
Carmen Lezeth:Stop it. There's not a way to answer that. Hey Jess, how do we now think American flags mean a certain candidate's supporters? That doesn't make sense to me. It's considered almost a negative thing.
Maurio Dawson :Yeah, because so many people who are patriots, who are patriots, are using that as their symbol and it doesn't necessarily represent the feelings of all Americans anymore.
Maurio Dawson :There was a time where all Americans, every American, felt proud to be an American. But even but in me, as a minority, my experience in this country is very different. So I've never just been that person to represent a flag, because I had family who lived in the South, who had an American flag, and then you go down to, you know, go down the road and you see an American flag with a Confederate flag standing on top of it. So my experience is very different with any American flag. So that representation for me I'm only speaking for me it has a different connotation. I can't speak for other people because people have a different experience, because there are a lot of immigrants who come here who are very proud to be in this country and who are happy to be from the oppressed countries that they've come from. So they are happy to represent that flag. Me, however, my life experience does not represent that, so that's why I don't do it, but I'm speaking for me, that's it.
Carmen Lezeth:Are you speaking for you?
Maurio Dawson :It's like what you said. No, I just say general.
Carmen Lezeth:I still believe and sound like Clinton right now. I still believe in a place called home. Look at, that's what all about. The joy is right. Like I really always try to see the good, I always want to believe in the best. I always want to believe that we can be what I need us to be or what I hope us to be. And what pisses me off is that's been. It's not even dampened, it's been crushed, and it breaks my heart, you know. It breaks my heart because I think this country still stands for something.
Carmen Lezeth:Yes, for all the people that come here, and white people keep thinking that only black people or brown people keep coming to this country. White people came to this country too, like, so you know, all this hate to people on the border from the south, all this hatred and anger. It's just vile and it says more about you than it does to the beautiful Let me just say it this way the beautiful, wonderful people who are doing their best to have a better life and see some Shining light from the United States, possibly to make a decent living. Yeah, you know my, my sister-in-law, baata, is from Poland and she came to this country. My ex-husband is from Israel and he came to this country and you know what? Because they have white skin, they didn't feel the hatred and the pain that Latinos and people who come across the border have to deal with. And what I am angry about is that we do this to each other, that we do this pain and this, this nastiness, to brown and black people. You know, and and I don't know where along the way, white people started believing that this is their country and that the rest of us, the rest of us, are just fucking visiting. This is my country. This is my country.
Carmen Lezeth:I was born and raised here and I do. I love my country, but you guys got to get this shit together, stop being racist. And and if your first thought is I'm not racist, that means you're racist, because if you were, you wouldn't have to motherfucking say it. So you got to get it together, and that's the difference. I used to believe we could get there. What's happening to me now? I Don't know. I don't know and I've never felt like that. I've never felt like that and that's why I took the flag off my car. After 30 years, being in LA Makes me say it. That's my god, sister.
Rick Costa:George to K mr Sulu for the Star Trek. So when that whole Pearl Harbor and he and he was a kid and they were putting yeah, and they were like, go back to your country. He's like this is my country. What do you?
Carmen Lezeth:want me to go back to. Yeah, it's just, you know, like I, I just believe that we are better than we're behaving as individuals and as a society. You know, and you know, okay, we make fun of whatever I mean. I know y'all are lovely and awesome people and you know all about the joy. The whole concept is that idea of hope, that we can See that little light and try to find joy in things instead of hatred. If you don't understand something, if you're uncomfortable with something, then then deal with that for yourself. Don't get angry with other people. Don't fucking get a gun and kill people because you're angry.
Maurio Dawson :Yeah.
Carmen Lezeth:You know, don't like just I. There's just so many things in this country that I wish I could fix by myself, like with it my little magic. You know, I, I spoke to this woman the other day. I shouldn't think woman, that's wrong, see. So I'm trying to. I spoke to a man who does drag. Okay, and I'm sorry I Come a man who does drag because I'm not sure what the right pronoun.
Rick Costa:I'm sorry, it's a drag queen, I guess.
Carmen Lezeth:Look, I'm just being careful because, anyway, the other day, and he was talking about how painful it is To just do this thing that he loved to do, that he used to do all the time in the 80s and the 90s in the clubs, you know what I mean and and just talking about how, like, how, things have changed, that he can't express himself because then people Want to call him gay and call him all these things.
Andrea Nunez :and be me, I'm like I Don't even get it, I don't even get it and understand it.
Carmen Lezeth:You know just, he's like a person. Yeah, for sure, I'm just trying to. I'm trying to get better. I never asked what the right pronouns are, or whatever, but I think, I think he's just a man of this dress. Yeah, so that's too much on it.
Maurio Dawson :I'm overcompensated my wife made a comment. I think she's right.
Carmen Lezeth:You know the greatest man I'm given to us in the Bible is that we love others as ourselves to.
Rick Costa:Love them, not to judge them them. So all those who weaponize the Bible are just wrong.
Carmen Lezeth:You can make the right one too.
Rick Costa:Yeah, exactly.
Carmen Lezeth:They villainize immigrants, but if they were to stop work just one day, it would paralyze this country. Okay, brian, we're not gonna talk about firearms. I'm so sorry, even brought it up. Oh, okay, okay, everyone's in the house now. Okay, yeah, there's a. There's a. There's a part in the book. Everybody's in the book is showing up. It's a fucking embarrassing out carriers, the guy I was in love with.
Maurio Dawson :Yeah.
Carmen Lezeth:But he didn't want me, so whatever, and you know. Baby um yeah, he was in love with me too, but you know he was. He was a big wig at. The boys Couldn't date me. I don't know, we had a little thing going on. But uh, I love you. So glad to see you. That's so weird. I'm so embarrassed. All right, I am gonna shut this down, though, unless you guys have some last words.
Rick Costa:Well, so my parents came here from Portugal and the whole idea was they wanted a better life. They were just plain simple farmers over there and they heard you know, you can have a better life, you can make a lot more money, blah, blah, blah. And so they came here and didn't even speak English, but they learned and they did their thing and then eventually was able to buy their own house, which I still live in today. And, um, yeah, and they did it right, they did it legally, they became American citizens. You know, they did it and they did it right, and that's what should. That's what the should be about.
Rick Costa:Yeah and and the differences and I.
Carmen Lezeth:It's not a small differences, they are white.
Rick Costa:Well, my dad, he was pretty dark, that was questionable to stop right there.
Carmen Lezeth:You know what I'm saying. Let's let's not get into the shades of coloring. I'm just saying it's very different than Somebody who comes from Honduras or Central America, or comes from Haiti, or comes from the Dominican Republic or any brown African-centric country you know what I mean where the indigenous people have a bloodline that gives them a tint of color and features that for some reason In this country we still think is okay to demean Um it's nearly impossible to do it right now.
Andrea Nunez :Yeah, really can't. If you are from an undesirable country and you don't have white skin, it's very divisive yeah.
Carmen Lezeth:Oh, al, I love you too. Come on, you're still killing me with that, love you. Hey, it's in the book. I can't help it and I guarantee you Rick is gonna go find that chapter. I was out, huh yeah, but okay, everyone look at, this was really a fun time.
Cynthia Lopez:I'm sorry.
Carmen Lezeth:I went a little off on things, but you know I'm feeling very comfortable with the crew and everything. So you know I love Let it out.
Maurio Dawson :I know right. Let it out, but you know what's?
Carmen Lezeth:so weird. This is the most people I've ever seen in the room not everyone's. I'm shook so clearly I should scream more, swear a lot. Is that what I'm getting? I feel like they tell you.
Cynthia Lopez:When you're gonna swear, so you can take the earpods out.
Maurio Dawson :Right, right.
Carmen Lezeth:All right, everyone. Thank you so much for coming by on the show. Thank you for hanging out in the neighborhood. Thank you to everyone who's viewing. Also, Let me give a heads up to linked in. I have so many more followers. We passed the 500 mark the other day. It's so amazing. Bye everyone. Thank you so much and we'll see you next week for sure. Remember it's all about the joy. Thanks for stopping by. All about the joy be better and stay beautiful folks. Have a sweet day.