All About The Joy
All About The Joy is a weekly hang-out with friends in the neighborhood! We share insight, advice, funny-isms and we choose to always try and find the positive, the silver lining, the "light" in all of it. AATJ comes from the simple concept that at the end of the day we all want to have more JOY than not. So, this is a cool place to unwind, have a laugh and share some time with friends!
All About The Joy
Dreams, Relationships, Nostalgia and Which Marvel Character Would You Marry?
Have you ever felt like life’s little victories and daily struggles are a silent symphony only you seem to hear? Join Cynthia, Rick Costa, and me on a escapade through career triumphs, human connections, and the joyous pursuit of passion. We chat about the resilience it takes to follow your dreams, with Cynthia eyeing a future in forensic anthropology. We wander down memory lane, nodding to the golden era of television, from "I Love Lucy" to "The Odd Couple," and how these classics contrast with today's viewing habits.
Navigating the spectrum of relationships, we uncover the intricacies of social cues and the delicate balance of criticism and compliments amidst Hollywood's glare. Blending humor and struggle, we also muse on the unorthodox notion that soulmates might just be friends or family, transcending romantic clichés. The playful debate on which Marvel character would make the most super partner adds a lighter note, juxtaposed with candid discussions on personal space in relationships, the evolving institution of marriage, and the poignant realities of co-parenting post-divorce.
Wrap up your day by immersing yourself in our conversation where we celebrate the beauty that life has to offer, even in the smallest moments. So, if you're looking for a blend of nostalgia, insights, and laughter – seasoned with the raw truths of life's journey – you've found the right spot.
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Host, Carmen Lezeth
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Hi everyone, welcome to All About the Joy. It's me and Cynthia. We're expecting other people, but we're just early. What's up, girl? How you doing? I'm good. Yeah, well, I mean, you sent me. Are we not talking about the text that you sent me yesterday? Oh, we can talk about it.
Cynthia Lopez:Okay. Well, what happened? Why don't you share? I'm still waiting to hear. So the department that I interviewed with pathology got in contact with my boss and my boss told me that they did and she was very happy. And you know she would hate to see me go, but she knows that's what I want to do, so she was very happy.
Carmen Lezeth:So, for people who are just tuning in for the first time, my cousin Cynthia has always wanted to work in the death field. No, I'm just kidding. Okay, I know, I just say it that way, but she wants to be Bones. I mean, she wants to be Forensic Anthropology. Okay, I always want to do it for Hollywood, because people don't know what that means. Okay, other people know what it means, but I don't. But you want to?
Cynthia Lopez:be Bones From means, but I don't. But you want to be running from bones from the show bones.
Carmen Lezeth:Hi Melanie, how are you? Yeah, we're early. We just figured we'd come on and start chit chatting, since we were already in the room, because it happens so much that we'll be talking about stuff and then, like it gets really good and then I have to be like we have to go live and then we have to drop the subject, so so anyway, so you've always wanted to be in that field. You do work in the medical field right now, but it's been really hard to get your foot in the door into becoming a forensic, pathologist, anthropologist, anthropologist oh my God, see, okay, I've done this for years now and I still can't get it right, cause it's like a block in my head cause it's working on dead people.
Cynthia Lopez:I'm just saying but so you decided now to go within. Is this? This is in the hospital that you work at, yes, yes, and it is a stepping stone towards my goal Because you know it will be dealing with, you know, slides and things like that. I'll be working closely with one of the doctors who actually deals with sarcomas, with like there's 100 different types of cancers that are out there, so he gets a lot of like samples and things like that they get looking under the microscope, so it'll be very interesting. I'm crossing my fingers.
Carmen Lezeth:I get it, but you know it looks good. No, I'm really. I told you this in the text. I was so proud of you because, no matter what goes on in your life, one of the things I like about you is that you persevere, no matter what. Like that really is a test of you know who we are. Right, I always say that it's like you can give up. Like I had to give up dancing. I didn't have a choice, I it wasn't going to happen anymore. You know what I mean and I didn't know that I could. Like it wasn't really about dancing, it was about performing, and it took me a long time to make that. Like Quincy yes, Like Quincy. Exactly, Melanie. Right, Cynthia did you watch the?
Carmen Lezeth:show. I told her about the show.
Cynthia Lopez:I didn't watch the show, but I know what you're talking about.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, I sent her because I was flipping through TV land or whatever it was whatever one of these old 70s shows are and I started watching Quincy because I remember it from back in the day and I sent it to you. I sent you the. It's so good though. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's what you want to do. Anyway, he was cool, jack Klugman, that was his name, and I think he was part of some other big-time sitcom from back in the day that everyone you didn't. You tell me that I can't remember. Yeah, yeah, the Odd Couple. You told me that.
Carmen Lezeth:Oh yes, yes, yes From the Odd Couple Right. See, I love that you always persevere, that you always find a way through, even when you're disappointed about stuff and whatever.
Rick Costa:So are you talking to me?
Carmen Lezeth:Melanie, you didn't know I was old enough to know it Me Girl, girl, I'm in my 50s. When the boys are on and they're talking about like cartoons and stuff, or like I didn't watch I Love Lucy, Like I got really hammered for that right.
Cynthia Lopez:I love, I Love Lucy, Like I got really hammered for that right. Oh my God, I love.
Carmen Lezeth:I Love Lucy. No, but I don't remember those shows. I don't remember those kinds of shows.
Rick Costa:Well, Cynthia is really young. I mean, cynthia is how old are you?
Carmen Lezeth:45. And I'm in my 50s. Yeah, but yeah, no, I think I saw, I think I knew Quincy, because there were reruns. I don't think I watched it when it was on on because I don't remember. I don't know.
Cynthia Lopez:I mean a lot of those shows came out like really like before we were born.
Carmen Lezeth:In the 70s or something. I think, it was on in the 70s maybe.
Cynthia Lopez:Or like the Honeymooners, and I Love Lucy.
Carmen Lezeth:No Honeymooners, and I Love Lucy. I have no idea.
Cynthia Lopez:Definitely for reruns when we were watching them.
Carmen Lezeth:I don't feel bad about those because I know those were before my time, but I remember Jack Klugman I don't know if it's because of, maybe, my mom, I don't know, I don't. My mom was, you know, I was so young when my mom died. But there are so like Johnny Carson, melanie, I remember Johnny Carson for sure, you know like, because my mom used to watch Johnny Carson at night and she would always say I could stay up and watch it right after the school in the morning, like there was, you know, like I can stay up as late as I wanted to, but I was going to school and I learned that lesson.
Cynthia Lopez:That was a treat.
Carmen Lezeth:yeah, yeah, but I learned that lesson quick, because I would just watch the monologue and just go to bed because you know, but it was more about spending time with her. So, yeah, yeah, I wish I was young, I could remember stuff what you talking about in this field. And as much as I've tried to help her, I've failed. Not for lack of trying. You didn't fail. No people who said they wanted to help or could help have blown us off, is all I'm going to say and I don't forget to share I don't mind it If it wasn't meant to be.
Cynthia Lopez:It wasn't meant to be. Yeah, it is Johnny.
Carmen Lezeth:Carson. Here's the thing the person who is in charge in Florida you know who I emailed. I helped her at UVM. I was the person that walked her through. So I'm kind of pissed about that, because that's a really good connection and all she needed to do was email me back. So I'm a little bit pissed about that. Hey, look it, I'm not perfect. I hold grudges, bitch I do. I don't give a shit If you tell me you're going to do something and then you don't do it. I have issues. You know what I mean. So, but yeah, Okay, Since nobody else is here, let's talk about 911.
Cynthia Lopez:Cause I almost text you again today. Okay, wait, I just watched the episode from last week. I just watched that, okay.
Carmen Lezeth:Wait, I think I've almost seen everything now. Okay, so I want to just. When are we going to hear about the interviews? Hopefully next week, and then when would you start? Okay, I won't go ahead too much, I won't go ahead, yeah.
Cynthia Lopez:Well, I did tell them during the interview that I'm going on vacation and I do want to give my boss, you know at least a few weeks notice, so that way you know she can hear, doesn't your boss know?
Carmen Lezeth:Because your boss is like oh yeah, but she knows, because she's the one giving you the recommendations.
Cynthia Lopez:No, no, yeah, no, she knows, but you know, I just want to make sure, because there are certain things that I do that other people don't do, so I want to make sure that they all are trained in that we already in the visualization of.
Carmen Lezeth:We've already got the job and we just want to give her time. We're putting that out there in the universe. So hey, rick, how you doing.
Rick Costa:Good, good. How are you I?
Carmen Lezeth:like the hat.
Rick Costa:Gracias, gracias.
Cynthia Lopez:I don't like the hat Hi Ana how are you? Oh yeah, so I did invite a few people on Facebook, so I'm hoping they all come on. Oh, that's so cool.
Carmen Lezeth:Is it Ana? I know, ana right, ana, ana, okay, wait.
Rick Costa:Rick, what is this hat? It's just a hat. I didn't know it was a big deal, it looks like a maze.
Carmen Lezeth:It looks like a maze right, cool, I like it.
Cynthia Lopez:What is it? Said in I don't think it says anything. I just saw it and I liked it and I bought it.
Carmen Lezeth:I think you need an All About the Joy hat. I'm just saying I know that's so my fault. It's so my fault. Now, rick, we were about to just talk for a minute about this show 9-11, because it's not 9-11, 9-1-1, because I didn't think you boys were going to come on for a minute. I know that Tony said he's going to come on later. He's on a very important phone call with his family, so I was like it's okay, like I invite people again. It's kind of like everyone emails me back, like everyone emails me back and I'm just like the reason why blind CCU is. So you can come or not, I appreciate the heads up, but but I expect you guys to be on. You know what I mean. So, okay, just a quick thing on nine, nine, one one. So, cynthia, today I watched what you called the Boston episode.
Cynthia Lopez:Oh, yeah, I know, I was like really.
Carmen Lezeth:This is how they perceived Boston. Put it up on the website. I just didn't get to do that today. I did it at like 4.30 this morning and then I went to work. Oh, that's a lie. I did it at 4.30 this morning and then I met with my lawyer and then I went to work. So I was at work at eight o'clock, but I did those two things before and I just got home like a half an hour ago. I got home at like 5.30. And this is not wine, this is water.
Rick Costa:Red cup wine cup.
Carmen Lezeth:No, I have to work tomorrow, so I never drink. It is actually water. Okay, 9-1-1, really quickly. For those of you who don't know, Cynthia forced me to watch the show. I encouraged her. Yeah, actually, I was like, I'll watch one or two episodes and I got hooked. I got hooked because Angela Bassett is in it. The 411 on 9-1-1.
Carmen Lezeth:Exactly so. I've been watching it and I've been addicted to it, and the thing that was interesting about it is because I wasn't paying for Hulu, which is who has it on. They have all of the episodes. I could only watch it as it was being recorded on YouTube TV. So it as it was being recorded on YouTube TV, so I was watching it out of order basically. So I was watching like one episode on episode, you know, on season six, another episode on season three or whatever, and it was really interesting because I was, you know, I was understanding the characters. But then I went and got Hulu right. Cynthia hooked me up and I got the Hulu, and so I've started watching it from beginning to end, and now some of the people that I love.
Cynthia Lopez:I'm like I am so annoyed with this character. I told you you'll have love and hate relationships throughout, but you'll end up loving them all.
Carmen Lezeth:Okay, but the boston episode seriously, jennifer love you and I just want to smack upside the head like stop whining. Okay, on the one hand, they're talking about her postpartum depression and I thought that was really good that they went deep into what it means for a woman to be in this position where they want to commit suicide. They don't think they're good enough for their baby. I mean, I don't know anything about this because I've never been pregnant, I've never had children, so it was really interesting on that part. But what's annoying to me is that she is continuously crying, not just in that episode but before, when I wasn't seeing it in order.
Cynthia Lopez:She cries like and it's a whimpering thing that drives me insane so she's great for that, because she's always been like a crier in like every movie she's been and stuff. So she was really great for that I didn't know that.
Carmen Lezeth:I, I what. What's her claim to fame?
Cynthia Lopez:I don't know, let's see.
Carmen Lezeth:I mean, I know the name, yeah I guess she's well known I mean in some show or something but I'm just saying this was my first time watching her and I really I'm like I'm going to shoot myself, okay. And then the last thing I'm going to say is I love Edmundo. Eddie, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, I love Eddie. I didn't think I loved Eddie and they're all dead now and so he's going through the tough one. That's a tough process that he's going through. So it's a really great show. Ricky, you should watch it. I'm telling you, if you watch it, you're going to get hooked, and I think I'm almost done. I I'm telling you if you watch it, you're going to get hooked, and I think I'm almost done. I think I have like two more episodes and I'm done seeing all of them. So it'll probably be tonight. But yeah, and you cry every episode because they save someone or somebody dies. They're trying to save.
Cynthia Lopez:And there's always something in each episode that somebody can relate to. That's a good thing about it too. You know, they have the alcoholpartum.
Carmen Lezeth:Cynthia's talking about all the bad stuff I'm thinking about. You see the difference. I'm all about the joy, you're all about the negativity Relate to. They also can relate to good relationships, well yes, but I'm getting to that.
Cynthia Lopez:Okay, I don't know I was getting to that. With all the bad stuff, there's always a good ending to it.
Carmen Lezeth:It's the firehouse, it's fire men and women and, uh, they it's their lives and the camaraderie and the family bond between them is intense and you realize how intense that relationship is because they lose a couple of them for a bit and they bring in new fire people and you're like, yeah, no, that's not gonna work. That's the story. You're like, no, that's not going to work.
Cynthia Lopez:That's the stuff. The chemistry's off. No, no, they don't understand how this works.
Carmen Lezeth:It's really a good show. Okay, rick, what's up with you baby?
Rick Costa:Just living the dream.
Cynthia Lopez:The dream or the nightmare.
Rick Costa:Oh yeah, Dream of being a caregiver.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, how's everything going? I don't mean to be laughing, I just thought that was a funny line. But how is did she go to bed?
Rick Costa:Yeah, yeah, she's in bed. She's good, we're all set, she's asleep. Thank you, jesus.
Cynthia Lopez:Yeah, okay.
Carmen Lezeth:But are you having a tougher time or is it getting easier? It depends on the work. Was crazy busy today, but, um, yeah, but she wasn't bad today. She was pretty good, okay, good. So I know rick can't wait for one question on what I, what I wrote. Oh wait, hold on a second, I'll be right back. I forgot I printed everything out. I forgot. So, rick, so I I always do.
Carmen Lezeth:I try to do like a little thing of what we're going to talk about and I send it to everyone who's going to be on the show and uh, we don't ever really go down the entire list, which is kind of the fun part of the show. But Rick responds to this, which he never does, and he's like oh, which Marvel character would I marry? Interesting, seriously, that's like at the bottom of the list. I wanted to talk about relationships today and really about being single and being married and because something funny kind of happened today where I realized like I am so glad I'm single and I mean I would love to be in a full on relationship too, but I think it is also a mix of maturity. So I'll just tell a little quick story this morning someone I'm gonna try to say it without saying people's names, but a woman friend of mine, not a friend, somebody I work with but said that her boyfriend she knows her boyfriend is cheating on her. Now I try not to play therapist at work or whatever, but you know I was half asleep and I'd done so much already. So I was like go ahead, I'm drinking my coffee, go ahead, talk, you know. So she said, and I know who. So much already. So I was like go ahead, I'm drinking my coffee, go ahead, talk, you know. So she said, and I know who her boyfriend is, I know who he is, he is fine, he is gorgeous. Like there's no doubt it's a good looking man. You know what I mean. And so she said she just knows that he's cheating on her. And I said, well, just dump them then. Like I don't, I don't, I don't know what to say, if you know it to be true.
Carmen Lezeth:And she looked at me like and I said you know, is it possible that you are upset because he is good looking? And when he walks in the room he takes it over? Everyone looks at him. Like you're not the only one who thinks he's fine, everybody thinks he's good looking. Like did you think dating him was going to change all of us Be like, oh yeah, no, he's not that good looking, I'm not going to look. You know what I mean. He hasn't changed. Like who he is is who he is. He's a good looking man, whatever. It's not that you think he's cheating on you, it's that you don't trust him. Why are you defending him? I'm like I am not defending him, I'm and I walked away laughing like I am so glad I am single because I can't deal with that. They just started dating, like maybe six months ago or something. You know what I mean. So it's still kind of new.
Rick Costa:So she thinks he is or she knows he is.
Carmen Lezeth:I think she's just jealous because he's. I know them both separately because they both work in the same industry. I'm just going to put it that way. Okay, so Is he flirty with people? Is he being who he always is?
Rick Costa:He's very friendly, which could be taken as flirty.
Carmen Lezeth:Right, yeah, okay, edmundo on 911. Is he flirting or is he just being himself? He's a good looking man, he's just I'm just saying like he's really good looking, he walks in the room. Is he flirting? Really good looking, he walks in the room. Is he flirting? I mean, it depends, I'm trying to think of for Rick. Another good example for Rick I've got to think of a Marvel character or Star Trek. I just watched Star.
Rick Costa:Trek just now.
Carmen Lezeth:I'm trying Star Trek. Nobody on Star Trek is really my flavor to date. Patrick Stewart is a very good looking man and he's charming, or whatever like back in the day. Is he flirting with people or is he just being who he is when he walks in the door? Do you?
Cynthia Lopez:know what I mean. Like right, like Rick said, he's being friendly, but so some people can come off flirty and probably to her, if he's not cheating on her and he's just being who he is, she's probably just insecure and not not trustworthy like I don't know your internet is going in and out.
Carmen Lezeth:I know you were worried about that earlier, but we can hear you.
Rick Costa:But I, you know, I'm just letting you know she's okay for me yeah, she.
Carmen Lezeth:Well, it just went in and out a little bit. Um, I think it'll be fine, but yeah, I'm just looking at these. They don't do the bars anymore, so that's oh. No, yeah, so they have changed everything, but I guess they haven't changed it for rick yet.
Rick Costa:So well, I did the thing right I did try to hear the button try the new thing and I figured it out. It's not as different as I thought it was. So, yeah, I'm dealing with it. But um, it doesn't show the green, you know, like if somebody's internet is out or something yeah, yeah, yeah but go ahead, rick without sounding arrogant, because I don't think I'm superior looking, but this is more something I want when I was.
Carmen Lezeth:This is more when I was rick, I feel like that's what I'm supposed to say. You are hot.
Rick Costa:I appreciate it. When I was younger, I found that sometimes because I try to be friendly, very friendly, hi, and some people took it the wrong way and I'm like what?
Carmen Lezeth:no, I'm just being nice you know okay, but but then I'm going to push back on that and say, uh, then you need to be able to read that sign and yeah, I've had that too.
Carmen Lezeth:Right like, and I always tell people this I'm oblivious I, I have boobs and I yeah, we've all I saying boobs. When you're growing up and you're athletic or whatever, it's a thing I remember being like I could read the sign clearly and I would change things. You know what I mean, because I never wanted anyone meant to misunderstand that, misunderstand anything I was doing. So, yeah, you can be friendly and whatever and be who you are, but if you're not noticing that, you're flirting, you know. I mean, we all like our ego stroked a bit. Right, there's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with wanting to be liked and being thought of as whatever you know my.
Rick Costa:My issue, though, was the uh the hat did like you did like you detector. And my brain doesn't really work, which is why, when I was on remember that I was telling you about on periscope days they would say they would have to give me a clue, a code word when somebody was flirting with me, because I was too stupid to realize, and they'd say pink poodle, pink poodle. And I'm like it's stupid, or is it?
Carmen Lezeth:I guess, yeah, I don't know if I believe that. Now that I know I I believe that you believe that I do.
Rick Costa:I'm just telling you what they were telling me that. I'm like, wait, what? What are you talking about? I feel so oblivious. And then I read back I'm like, okay, yeah, I guess I could kind of see that.
Cynthia Lopez:But I think it's just because you know the way you are. You're friendly with people. You just feel like they're just being friendly If someone's actually flirting, and like if you were actually flirting with someone and you see them flirting back, then you would get it, but you just feel it as them being friendly, like you are.
Rick Costa:Yeah.
Carmen Lezeth:But I think there's also a little bit of nuance, and I wasn't there in Periscope days, so I'm not trying to judge you or whatever. Here's the thing. I had the conversation with the guy afterwards.
Carmen Lezeth:Ok, he's kind of sick of the whole thing and I was like good looking guy, I'm so easy, yeah, I'm like dumper, I'm like equal opportunity. But I think sometimes we don't realize that subconsciously, and this is natural. There's nothing wrong with wanting to be liked, it's human. There's nothing wrong with liking compliments or liking people thinking we're pretty or smart or sexy or whatever. That's part of the human deal. But this weird idea that somehow we're bad because we might like that or whatever. And I think sometimes what happens is maybe we don't see it because we don't want to, because we do like it, we do like to see that.
Carmen Lezeth:I've always walked around a little bit paranoid as a kid. We can always talk about why, but I think it's pretty obvious. I always thought if I wore something a certain way or showed something a certain way or whatever, I could get hurt because somehow all men just want one thing. I'm not saying that's true, I'm saying as I grew up in the way that I did, that's what I always had in the back of my head. That's a lot of Christian Catholic guilt. You know what I Like? I remember we got in trouble when we were at Blessed Sacrament and in school because I went to grammar school at Blessed Sacrament, we wore shorts under our skirts and we were told we were sinners because we like to do cartwheels, and you know what I mean. Like we weren't ladylike. We were always really told that. You know, showing anything, even wearing shorts under our skirts so that we could play like kids, was a bad thing, you know. So I was.
Carmen Lezeth:I've always been the opposite. I'm hyper aware of what men see or what I think they might be seeing, even if it's not true. I'm the complete opposite. You know what I mean, because I don't want to go down that route, you know. But this guy, I actually think he's. It's not that he's oblivious, I think he's just. I imagine if you walk into a room and Rob Lowe is standing there, we're all going to be like oh my God, hi. Not because he's Rob Lowe, but because he's a good looking man. You know what I mean. And he's pretty and he's got the smile and the charm. I wouldn't think he's just automatically flirting. Yeah, and I don't think that's what this guy's doing. But I think she thinks we're all now going to be like oh yeah, he's not good looking. Yeah, she's totally flirting.
Cynthia Lopez:I think she sounds like she's insecure with herself.
Carmen Lezeth:Insecure with herself. I think she thinks she also and this is another clue, ladies, men too, people who are single If you think you don't deserve to be with somebody who asked you out, you've already set yourself up for a bad relationship. You know what I mean. I think she thinks she caught a good one. She actually said that in some way shape or form.
Rick Costa:He's not a fish, yeah.
Carmen Lezeth:Oh my God, I caught a good one. Well, they always say there's plenty of fish in the sea. That's right. Yeah.
Rick Costa:But that's a disaster waiting to happen. If she can't get over that, that's not going to work?
Cynthia Lopez:I mean, they've only been dating. What six months you said?
Rick Costa:Yeah.
Carmen Lezeth:I don't know what happened, but I was no help because I told them both to dump each other. You're talking to the wrong person. I'm going to tell you to, just because you don't trust each other. Yeah.
Cynthia Lopez:And it's too soon in the relationship to have some type of issue like that.
Carmen Lezeth:I know right, Six months is the beginning.
Cynthia Lopez:It's the mud part. It's like one said. My husband says you know, the first year is probation period. You get to know the person, you get to know their ins and outs, their quirks, all this. And that you know saying like we'll be walking down the street or whatever we're talking to a friend, they'll be like, oh, hi, honey, hi, sweetie, you know it's whatever. And I'll be like, oh, you know, stay beautiful to somebody else and else. And I'll just kind of laugh because that's just him, he's just being friendly. That's Juan. Juan is so like that. You know what I mean.
Carmen Lezeth:That's him, juan told me I was beautiful like five times or something. Carmen, you're just so beautiful. I think I yelled at him once like all right, I got it enough, Thank you.
Carmen Lezeth:Thank you, it was just annoying, but it's the way he is. He's very like, he's very lovable. Is he in the room? No, no, he doesn't give him compliments where he can hear me, but he's like a teddy bear, he's just a lovable guy and so. But that's also what he generates, right, he generates just kindness and love. So it's adorable, but, yeah, he's very funny. Yeah, carmen, you're so there. I was like got it, got it.
Cynthia Lopez:Thanks, Juan. As you can see, karma takes compliments very well.
Carmen Lezeth:I take them well the first time. I don't like the weird gushiness that freaks me out a bit. I will admit this I don't take criticism very well and I don't take compliments very well.
Carmen Lezeth:The reason why I don't is because if I believe any of them, it fucks up my brain, right. So I was taught this a long time ago as a performer don't read any of the reviews. Don't get all excited when people are giving you a standing ovation. Don't get all excited when people are asking you for your autograph. Don't get it all up in your head because the minute you get one bad review, it's going to sit in your heart forever and it's the best piece of advice.
Carmen Lezeth:So it's not because I have like someone trying to say, carmen, you might have self-esteem issues. I need a new therapist, is what I'm thinking. But I was like it's not self-esteem, it's I just know better. You don't need to take I, not other people. But yes, I do not take compliments or criticism because I don't want to put too much value on them in any way, shape or form. Now, if it's like you or somebody I care about, like Andrea or Mia or you know what I mean Like if it's somebody that I know who is giving me actual advice, like Billy or Alden or something that's different, that's different, I will take that criticism, I will take the compliment and I will hold on to it.
Rick Costa:Well, now that we're here no, I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding, go ahead.
Carmen Lezeth:Rick, say your piece, baby.
Rick Costa:No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, no but it's true.
Carmen Lezeth:But you know what I mean. Like those people's criticisms I will value because I know they're coming from a place of making me a better person worked at my first job, mcdonald's and they said um, it takes 10 good reviews to counteract one bad review that's a good one, that's true so they're like try your best to never get a bad review, because you're gonna have to get 10 more good ones for the people to counteract that bad one you know what.
Carmen Lezeth:I think that's really true. Actually it does that. That's kind of the way it is, if you, if you allow that to embed in your soul. So I advise people. I know it's hard to do, but I think I think when you grow up as a performer, you start and you get rejection over and over and over again. Or, like actors, you start to learn like you know what, whatever you know. I mean, I remember going out to an audition when I first came to la and one of the criticisms I've got this more than once, but I'm not black enough, so, like they have. So so they'll, they'll put a breakdown which is a description of whatever the show is right. And they'll put a breakdown which is a description of whatever the show is right, and they'll tell you the character is a police officer, she's Black, african-american, this age, blah, blah, blah. Whatever Comes from a wealthy Athena.
Cynthia Lopez:I'm 911.
Carmen Lezeth:I know I'm like 911. She is so good in that show, though I don't like her wigs, though that's my only problem. Why are they putting her in bad wigs? Anyway, that's a whole other issue, because every time she has a new wig on, I'm like it's Angela Bassett. She could get her own wigs. I don't know, I don't anyway. Besides that, though, but here's my point, that's what a breakdown is.
Carmen Lezeth:So your agent will send you out, and you'll go out to this audition, and there'll be all these women who look exactly like you, in the same type of whatever. And I've gotten the criticism, which is you're not black enough. What am I supposed to do with that? You know, like I can't make myself blacker. And and like what do you mean? Because, clearly, what do they mean by that? Like you need me to talk ghetto or something. Like you're the one with the stereotype because I'm black enough. You know what I mean. So, but again, I'm not dissing the industry, but this, this is the fight. And then the same thing will happen, like if I go in for a role for a Latina this has happened several times I'll go in, go into the audition. They're like oh yeah, so we were looking more for, like a Jennifer Lopez, you're actually not Latina. What?
Rick Costa:Really Wow.
Carmen Lezeth:Right, because they're looking for, like Jennifer Lopez, selma Hayek, they're looking for Caucasian Latino people. They're looking for people that they, in their heads, have decided are Latino, not realizing there's a whole spectrum of African Latina. You know what I mean. Like just a whole spectrum of people. I always say this and, cynthia, you know Ileana de la Vega. Ileana de la Vega is from Cuba, right? Her family is from Cuba and she is blonde and green-eyed. And then my other friend from college, carol Jaime, she's also Cuban and she is dark, dark skin, like dark, dark skin, okay, and she looks African-American, and that is the beauty of the Latino culture. So when Hollywood asks for a character that's Latino, they're actually asking for just one type of person. I mean that's changing, but you know what I mean. It's a slow thing, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever. Look at us.
Cynthia Lopez:We're both Honduran and I'm I would be white, right, and I would not.
Carmen Lezeth:Be well, I don't think we're. Our parents are from Honduras, yeah, or they were, or well, not our parents, my mom and your mom, right? Yeah, cause, you know, even though we're cousins, we're not really cousins, but we don't need to go down that road because we are cousins. But, yes, our moms are both Honduras, right, and we both are different colored skin, right, yeah, so, whatever. And then there's Rick from Portugal.
Rick Costa:Whatever I've had people say to me like, oh, you're Portuguese, you're not white.
Carmen Lezeth:I'm like, okay, I don't know what to say you know, I asked him the other day what their ethnicity was. He's a beautiful young man. Where was I? Oh, I know where I was.
Carmen Lezeth:I went and bought sneakers after work and he was working at Roadrunners and he was talking to me or whatever, and he's just such a pretty looking guy with blue eyes or whatever, but I could hear a Spanish thing in his voice and I was like where are you from? And he's like what did he say? I think he said Escondido and I was like California. He's like no Mexico. I escondido and I was like California, like, and he's like no Mexico. I'm like oh, my god, you're Mexican, it was just. And he's like yeah, it was so cool to like, because most people who are here who are from Mexico are more my color. You know what I mean. Uh, so it's just really interesting to to talk to someone like him. And oh, oh, I know I was saying this.
Carmen Lezeth:And then I said, well, where do you get the blue eyes from? He's like well, my well, my dad is from. Oh, no, he said my dad is from here. He's white. I'm like okay, but white isn't like. Where is he from? And he's like you know LA? I'm like, come on, I was like you just told me your mother's from Escondido, whatever, mexico. So, and then he's, but your father is not just white, that's a skin color. So there's a skin color. And then there's an ethnicity, so he's like yeah, I think he's like Irish or something, but I don't even know if he knows.
Rick Costa:They don't care.
Carmen Lezeth:I think it's, because, well, that's a whole other conversation. Let's get back to who you would date in the Marvel universe. Wait, wait. Before we go down that road, let me ask you this question what are the pros to being married? So we've all been married. Cynthia is still married, poor you. No, I'm just kidding. What are the pros to being married? And then what are the cons? I'm just curious what you guys might say.
Cynthia Lopez:I mean the pros you have somebody to share your life with, share memories with, kind of be a witness to your life you know?
Carmen Lezeth:oh, I like that answer be a witness to your life yeah, and you know, god forbid something happens to you.
Cynthia Lopez:You got someone there who can take care of you, or I got that. I ain't married.
Carmen Lezeth:I hear you. I'm just, I'm just messing with you, I'm just being the cons.
Cynthia Lopez:You don't have your own space anymore oh, right, right, that would be hard oh even though I love when he's around, I do like sometimes you know he goes out for a walk or something and I have the whole house in my house myself for like an hour and it's just like oh, I think the best way to do it is if you could.
Carmen Lezeth:Again, none of us could afford it, but again, you know you have the west wing, I have the east. Have the East wing once in a while in the middle Cause I don't think I could ever. People like, as you get older, you can't share your life. I'm like I have always been this person. I'll always say my best relationship was the one where he never lived in my state and we saw each other every other week and I was in my, my 30s. Then I was like best relationship because I never had to see him every week.
Cynthia Lopez:Okay, so that's the con is you don't have time to yourself yeah, and your house doesn't stay clean for more than like a day that's a man thing though.
Carmen Lezeth:Huh yeah, that's a man thing not me, because I got this one that's not your wife, that's your mama who's in the issue, dude, I'm just saying we're talking about relationships.
Rick Costa:No, but I'm just trying to defend the men, because you made it sound like all men are pigs.
Carmen Lezeth:You cannot defend the men with your mother who has an illness. That's bad.
Rick Costa:I'm just saying, all men are not pigs.
Cynthia Lopez:No, no, not all. Men are not pigs.
Carmen Lezeth:No, no, not all men are pigs, yeah I know a few implication that I think you're being overly defensive for something that you don't believe in. Hey, chris oh yeah he just said I'm serving a 37 years to life marriage sentence.
Cynthia Lopez:Oh that's horrible baby and you wouldn't change it, chris okay, rick, what are your?
Carmen Lezeth:you used to be married. What did you? Like about it. What do you?
Rick Costa:miss about it. Well, same thing. Cynthia says you got somebody to go home to somebody to talk to. You could talk to literally anything you want to. You could talk to them because that's what it's supposed to be. That's your life partner. You shouldn't have any secrets. If you want a good marriage, my partner shouldn't have any like secrets. You know, if you want a good marriage, um, my opinion, my opinion if that's your real life partner, then there shouldn't be any secrets, um, and just somebody to always be there, and you don't have to be lonely, and you don't have to be lonely at night either, if you know what I mean.
Carmen Lezeth:Um, but yeah, don't look at me like that. I mean, could you expand? I'm just sorry, sorry, you walked right into that one. Do you know what I mean? Like you kind of walked right in that's real life.
Rick Costa:I'm just saying.
Carmen Lezeth:You know I was married. I don't miss it at all. I didn't like hey Audrey. How are you? So, Audrey is Cynthia's sister and my cousin. That's so funny. How you doing? She should come up on the show. Sometimes she won't come up, right, she should. She should, audrey, you should come up on the show. What is this middle name? Is that really her middle name? Is she just being?
Cynthia Lopez:sassy.
Carmen Lezeth:I meant to ask her that she's had that up there for like 10 years and I've never asked Marriage pros someone who kills bugs, marriage cons.
Cynthia Lopez:Wait, what does the rest say? They might kill you I don't know.
Carmen Lezeth:Wait, let me see if I can see the rest of his wording. I can't see it.
Rick Costa:Yeah, just say, might dot, dot dot.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, they might kill bugs. Okay, chris, I need to see the rest of that.
Rick Costa:I can't see it on the chat for some reason. Well, cons. If you want to talk about cons, I think the biggest one is-.
Carmen Lezeth:Wait, cons, for what Marriage?
Rick Costa:Yes, you don't have the freedom to do whatever you want anymore.
Carmen Lezeth:Hmm, being married.
Rick Costa:Mm-hmm.
Carmen Lezeth:But been my thing. Never, never, never, so okay. So for me, I've never. I don't know, it's not I. I don't think I ever liked being married or wanted to be married. It wasn't my thing. I eloped, which everyone was not surprised by at all. So for me, I don't miss being married at all.
Rick Costa:Yeah, did you do it because you thought this is what's expected and this is what I'm supposed to do.
Carmen Lezeth:Oh, no, no, absolutely not. Okay, I don't know. I'm sure Cynthia would be like yeah, no, I don't, carmen doesn't do anything. I would actually do the opposite. If somebody expected me to do something, I'd do the opposite. No, no, I thought I was in love and we kind of did it, but it was just uh, I got irritated very quickly. Uh, yeah, I need more space and I, I love to be alone. Uh, yeah, I need more space and I, I love to be alone. Uh, I know people know me to be.
Carmen Lezeth:I think everyone is an extrovert and an introvert but, like I don't feel lonely ever, like I love being alone. I love like the like if I could be alone and not deal with work, that would be my blessing, like because sometimes when I'm by myself too much, I'll keep thinking about work and not my own stuff. So for me it would be great and that's because I think I feel responsible for work. You know, but somehow the stuff I want to do, like putting up the website and fixing the you know, the merch or whatever, that to me feels like oh, that's just, I got to put that on the side hobby. So if I didn't have to work and I could just be alone and focus on the stuff, that would be like my blessing. I would love that.
Rick Costa:Yeah, in the same way I've even thought like what if I go to jail and they throw me in solitary? Like to me? I'm like, ooh, I'm so scared of solitary. Like, go ahead, put me in solitary.
Carmen Lezeth:I don't know Well.
Carmen Lezeth:I think solitary, without like TV and books or something might be a very different thing Like not being out of my house might be a different, we might be talking about a different thing, but I do know what you mean. I think the only reason why I can be such an extrovert and like I love people and I enjoy being on stage and I love you know, doing, talking and speaking or whatever is because I love so much my quiet, peaceful time. I don't now do I love the companionship of a man. Of course I do. I do and do. I want that consistently on a regular basis as I get older. I'm okay with the phone call Like hey, you want to hang out next week? I don't know if I want someone 24 seven. It's a lot of work. It is a lot of work. It's a lot of work.
Carmen Lezeth:And here's the thing I was talking billy yesterday on the phone and billy's like my brother from another mother and it's so easy to talk to him. It's so simple. It's just. We just have a flow. There's no drama. You know, I mean the same thing with alden. It's like, and so these people are like family to me. So I think the perfect thing is and I think this is probably what everyone wants is you want someone who's like your best friend because, then yeah, to be your partner, whatever, because then they get you, you get them and that is probably what the component that's missing.
Carmen Lezeth:Now I could never have intimacy with Alden or Billy because they're just not my people. You know what I mean. Like I love them, but they are family now they're best friends, you know. It's like, you know, andre was saying last week I love her but I would never want to be with her. But it's that weird thing where it's like I think for me it's not that I've given up, but the bar is so high, it has to be someone who is that kind of friend and I think that takes a long time to figure out.
Rick Costa:Yeah, I think the friendship is probably the most important part.
Carmen Lezeth:And people skip over that. Yeah, that's the friendship is probably the most important part, and people skip over that.
Rick Costa:Yeah, that's crazy to me. That's crazy to me.
Carmen Lezeth:Well, I don't think they realize it.
Rick Costa:Yeah, that's why people that get married so quick, within like months of knowing each other, I'm like you're out of your mind.
Carmen Lezeth:Although some of those people, it works.
Rick Costa:Sometimes, but I think more times than not.
Cynthia Lopez:Let me tell you I have a friend. Her and her husband met. They got married, I think after six months. They have been together for, I want to say, almost 20 years now. They have six children.
Rick Costa:It worked for them.
Cynthia Lopez:Yeah, it's amazing. I think that's kind of cool.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, I think that's kind of cool. All right, what about being single, cynthia? How long has it been since you've been single?
Cynthia Lopez:Well, let's see me and Juan have been together 26 years. Wow. The last time I was single, I was what? 17, 18 years old.
Carmen Lezeth:Oh yeah, that's sad. I mean good, Wow, Wow, Right. So you wow, that's okay. So you were 17, 18 and then you got married. I mean you were with, you got married after that, but you, yeah, we've been together since I was 19. Yeah, oh, wow.
Cynthia Lopez:I mean, I'm happy for you, but I mean, I did date a lot before him, so I mean you could not have dated that much.
Carmen Lezeth:I'm so sorry, date a lot before him. So I mean you could not have dated that much. I'm so sorry, like I'm so sorry. I dated a lot and before I was 18 and much more after that. But wow, that's no. I mean that's cool, are you happy? No, I'm just kidding like a therapy session juan are we happy no, they'll ask me is, are we? Okay, so you can't really answer the question about pros and cons of being single, but you can imagine it I mean it's kind of the same thing.
Carmen Lezeth:I mean, if I was single, I'd probably again have quiet time, but I think I'd, I think I'd probably be bored, to be honest well, you wouldn't even be bored, because I'm sorry to bring this back to when your man went away for two weeks to be by his mother's side. Two months he was gone Okay, two months, whatever Two months and you were freaking out. I mean, audrey said sometimes I'm glad I'm single, don't have to deal with anyone, answer to anyone but my kid. Yeah, that's true. Don't have to deal with anyone, answer to anyone but my kid yeah, that's true.
Carmen Lezeth:I think for me, the moments where I'm really grateful that I'm single I mean, besides, like the fiasco today with those two, which was funny uh, I'll get up at three in the morning or something, and I'll be like I just want to eat something and I know this is a stupid thing like, and I'll get up, I'll be like you know, I just feel like having some scrambled eggs. It'll be something stupid, like like some random thing. Or I just want to get up, I'm going to read a book. I'm going to go sit in the living room and read a book at three in the morning, like not answering to anyone for that or not feeling guilty about it or not. I don't ever want to give that up, and you'd have to, because you have to be considerate of somebody else. You know, if I'm going to be in a relationship, it has to be with somebody rich, because that's that's the only way it's going to work.
Rick Costa:No less than a mansion.
Carmen Lezeth:Right, I need my space, baby, I need my space. That is so funny yeah.
Rick Costa:Where's y'all's bedroom? I'll show you where my bedroom is. Well, we can.
Carmen Lezeth:We could have our own bedrooms and we could have one in the middle of some I don't know. He could come over to my space or whatever, I don't know. I just I, yeah, I've never been okay with those couples who like fart in front of each other and all that, like all that nonsense. I'm not into it, I'll never been into it. Let me see Audrey said at the same time I'm still looking for my prince.
Cynthia Lopez:Haven't found him yet. I wouldn't say Juan's a prince, but you know.
Rick Costa:Wow, he's a king. He's a king. Oh, because he's a king.
Cynthia Lopez:You went the same.
Rick Costa:I had to rescue Juan. There I got to rescue him.
Carmen Lezeth:Juan is so cool. I like Juan. I think I think the pros I actually was going to have him.
Cynthia Lopez:I was actually going to have him pop in into this conversation, but he's dealing with the baby right now.
Carmen Lezeth:Oh yeah, I would have been interesting to hear his point of view, but I don't want you guys fighting either, though so I'm glad he's not coming on. No, pros are pretty easy for being single, but I think the cons are a little bit more complicated. Like a big con for me is like if I travel and Cynthia knows, like if I travel, I have to let everybody know where I'm going. They all get my itinerary, there's a schedule, they have all the emergency numbers, because my biggest fear is like I'm traveling out of the country or I'm traveling somewhere by myself, whether it's for work or whatever and then something happens to me and nobody knows about it. Like that would devastate me.
Carmen Lezeth:And it's not just because I'd be like nobody cares, it's like I wouldn't want people to find out that I passed away like that or something. You know what I mean and nobody know where I am. That freaks me out all the time. So I think that's one of the cons for me is you don't have that person. Who's your, you know who's like oh, why didn't carmen come home at six o'clock, right? Yeah, you know, like that does bother, it scares me because I always think to myself like I wouldn't want people to find out or like, like if I was dead here for four days, and then people feel bad about that. Yeah, you better cry and shit and be like in sorrow for like three months.
Carmen Lezeth:Like, yeah, I want like huge memorials everywhere, all over the world, you know, with all friends from everywhere. I want dedication pages on my Facebook and website. You know we have it all set up. I'm just saying I want lots of tears and celebration, but more tears of missing people. All right, let's move on to something more fun. Do you believe that everyone is supposed to be with someone? No, I don't think so. You don't believe that there's somebody for somebody or somebody for everyone.
Cynthia Lopez:Well, it kind of brings me back to that whole soulmate thing. So I feel like there is someone for everyone, okay, but they don't necessarily have to be a partner. Your soulmate doesn't necessarily have to be your partner, it doesn't have to be your wife or your husband. It could be a best friend. So, like you know, like you and Andrea are best friends, you guys know everything about each other.
Carmen Lezeth:I wouldn't say Andrea and I are soulmates, no, no, no, but I'm saying an example.
Cynthia Lopez:an example, okay. You know someone who always had your back.
Carmen Lezeth:I think soulmates is more about a romantic thing, right.
Cynthia Lopez:Some people. I mean, that's what most people would think about it.
Carmen Lezeth:Okay, I'm listening to what you're saying, so I don't get the Andrea part. What's your definition of soulmate?
Cynthia Lopez:I guess Just someone who is your other half, but I don't think it necessarily has to be a partner.
Rick Costa:To me. I take it as someone that you are destined to be with, and I don't believe that at all.
Carmen Lezeth:Interesting Okay.
Rick Costa:Destined to be with romantically. Right, and a lot of Christians, because you know me. They're like, oh yeah, God has the perfect one for you. And I'm like, yeah, and so why did you get divorced? I guess that wasn't your soulmate. You made a mistake.
Carmen Lezeth:Oopsie oopsie?
Carmen Lezeth:no, I don't believe so I, I probably think a little bit differently. I mean, I think, the way rick does about it being somebody you're destined to be with romantically or whatever although I know what you're saying, cynthia like I mean, I don't think everybody has to be married. That's what I'm gonna say. I'm not saying and and I always look at, look at it this way, and people think I'm crazy, but not crazy. But they're like, why do you have to bring it like that?
Carmen Lezeth:But like, my mom died alone, right, she clearly had different children with different men, and I say that because that's just factual and I think she lived a very full life. She died very, very young, but none of the men that she had children with were in her life when she passed away. I mean, again, I was 11, but it's not like we talked about it, but just from my understanding. And I always think to myself, if my mom couldn't be with somebody her soulmate or whatever, why do I have some expectation that I'm supposed to be? Like she was a good person, she you know what I mean Like she did all the right things.
Carmen Lezeth:She helped so many people blah, blah, helped so many people, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and it's like, so I I think that's why, for me, I don't know if I believe everyone has to have, um, a soulmate, you know, but I do believe what Cynthia is saying, which is like we all have somebody who loves us, who are our friends and family and who are I. You know, I'm not gonna say ride or die, because that was a whole other conversation we all had, because I think that's just a weird terminology, but yeah, there's no doubt I have very many people and I feel blessed that I have people who have my back, no matter what.
Carmen Lezeth:I worked hard for those relationships, but I am blessed because I do have them, although you know it's never been tested, so we'll see. No, I'm just kidding.
Rick Costa:Andrea actually it was.
Carmen Lezeth:You know, there's no doubt. Andrea was here during my surgery and other stuff, so there's no doubt about it. But, and Mia too, and yeah, and Cynthia has been there for me too. Cynthia, are you in that world now? Are you in my world of important people? I don't know how could you even question that. You have my will. Who did I send my will to when I had my surgery? Did I send it to you? I did I read it? I still have it. Yeah, I always redo my will, like every year, but when I have a thing like I'm going into surgery, I redo my will and all my information. So how could you even ask that? But yeah, so, yeah, it's interesting. I don't know what I see in the future, but I do like my relationship status at the moment, which is just very simple. I am single, but I have many friends who happen to be male as well. That's all I'm going to say.
Rick Costa:I just like the fact that, because, okay, I guess maybe I felt this way in the past, but I don't have to report to anybody. You know what I'm saying. Know, say like, where were you, but you know what time it is, what were you doing, wait?
Carmen Lezeth:a minute. I have to laugh at like am I in your will, carmen? Will I inherit billions?
Cynthia Lopez:I don't know where the millions are coming from.
Carmen Lezeth:Sure, hey, rick. I'm sorry, I just had to laugh at that.
Rick Costa:Yeah, no, I mean, yeah, that's pretty much it To report to someone right. Yeah, because I did feel like you know like okay, why are you questioning me? Like do you not trust me? Like why are you all? You know my business, whatever.
Carmen Lezeth:It's kind of like what I was saying the morning and I, you know, I have scrambled eggs at three in the morning for whatever reason, and I just sit on my couch with my legs folded in a bowl like not you know, just eating and whatever, and it's like I don't have to answer anybody. I think if I was with somebody it would be like that Like why are you doing this? What's wrong with you? Are you depressed? Are you there'd be like a 15 thing questionnaire worried, like why are you getting up at three in the morning and having eggs? That makes no sense, you know, and I don't, yeah, I don't.
Carmen Lezeth:I love not having that. I love not having that. But the good side about it is is I do love the idea. There is no doubt when I wake up in the morning and there's a man next to me and I haven't kicked him out yet, I love that. I love that morning. You know what I mean. Like you're with somebody and he's holding you, and you know what I mean. Like I love that part. There's no doubt about it.
Rick Costa:Funny story and hopefully I just won't get back to her that I said this but I'm not saying no names, but anyway, so one day we're live streaming.
Rick Costa:Yeah, one day I drove home from work I was really tired, it was a horrible day and there's like a back entrance to the basement because that's where we lived. We still live in their parents house and I literally parked my car. I went straight to bed. I didn't go upstairs to say hi to nobody, I was just dead tired. So tired, call the hospitals, call the police. Where is he? Because I'm such a creature of habit and schedule like everything is where is he? Where is he? Oh my, is he? Oh my God, where is he? Where is he? First of all, the car is in the freaking driveway.
Carmen Lezeth:Because you didn't go upstairs to say hi or something.
Rick Costa:Second of all, did you bother to look downstairs, just in case I might be there, instead of calling 10 hospitals to see if I was dead.
Carmen Lezeth:No, but aren't you? Isn't that lovely that they were. They were worried about you.
Rick Costa:In a psycho way, I guess.
Carmen Lezeth:Trying to put a good spin on it. I don't know they care too much, so much that they didn't look for him actually in the house or even look out the window for the car.
Rick Costa:That's what killed me more. You couldn't just look out the window.
Cynthia Lopez:Here's the car.
Rick Costa:There it is.
Carmen Lezeth:Is this your ex-wife?
Rick Costa:It's somebody.
Carmen Lezeth:It's his ex-wife. Okay, we're going to move on to other questions. Okay, we've talked about celebrity crushes before, but which Marvel character would you want to date and or marry? And you cannot have any cartoons or animations, rick, it has to be Marvel movies. And look, I think Cynthia's the one who's depressed with that rule.
Rick Costa:Yeah, but it's the same characters in both.
Carmen Lezeth:anyway, generally, no, it's not, I don't want to hear anything about that stupid X-Men 97. That sucked. It was amazing.
Cynthia Lopez:They're not getting great reviews.
Carmen Lezeth:Whatever, go ahead, rick. I'm going to write a bad one. No, I won't.
Rick Costa:That's tough because it's like most people have powers and stuff, not everybody.
Carmen Lezeth:There's got to be somebody you're attracted to in the Marvel movie. Don't make it about powers.
Rick Costa:It has to be. Could we include live action TV shows, not cartoons?
Carmen Lezeth:I'm just saying. I don't want to hear about X-Men 97.
Rick Costa:To be funny and that sounds weird.
Cynthia Lopez:I was thinking about She-Hulk Really.
Rick Costa:I'm always going to be protected. I ain't got to worry about nobody.
Carmen Lezeth:She's a lawyer, right, she's the lawyer.
Rick Costa:Yeah, she can protect me from the law and protect me from the bad guys.
Carmen Lezeth:And what about her brother, her?
Rick Costa:brother, you mean her cousin.
Carmen Lezeth:Oh, is that who he is? A cousin, a cousin, yeah, oh, that's right, the cousin.
Rick Costa:That's how she became She-Hulk, because she got a blood transfusion from him.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, I watched two of those episodes and then I was done.
Cynthia Lopez:I never even watched it.
Carmen Lezeth:Oh good. It was good, but I didn't get into it. It did not get good reviews, so She-Hulk is the one for you.
Rick Costa:That is so good.
Carmen Lezeth:Cynthia, I like Hawkeye. Oh, we love Hawkeye.
Cynthia Lopez:Yeah, hawkeye is Jeremy Renner.
Carmen Lezeth:So yeah, he's cool. He's cool. That's going Cynthia. Can you guess who mine would be? Thor, it's so easy. It's so easy. I love Thor. I love fat Thor. I love Thor as his mother, I love Thor who loves his brother, brother, even though his brother's an ass.
Carmen Lezeth:But not really because now we know who loki really is you know what I mean, like after watching the amazing, amazing storyline. So now, like that changes my whole idea of him, like everything, uh, because he's holding up all the timelines, basically right. So now we realize this is just one version of him, right? Cynthia has no idea what I'm talking about. No, I haven't seen it yet.
Rick Costa:Oh my God, you need to know for real.
Carmen Lezeth:You know what?
Cynthia Lopez:Okay, all right.
Carmen Lezeth:I know.
Cynthia Lopez:I sat down and watched X-Men 97, but I haven't watched Loki yet. No, no, no, I don't care about.
Carmen Lezeth:X-Men. X-men 97 is irrelevant to me, if you ever figured it out. I watched 9-1-1 and then you and I talked about you watching. You went and watched the Western wing the other day and we talked you can go see the. Oh, rick watched the American president. He loved it. He loved it, you liked it, you liked it, it was enjoyable, it was very romantic and adorable, whatever.
Carmen Lezeth:But instead of all that, forget that you need to watch the latest Loki series on Disney right, it's Disney Plus. It's so one of the best that were made. One of the best.
Rick Costa:Seriously.
Carmen Lezeth:So well done. That was great. And when you watch that you really it changed. For me it did. I don't know about Rick, but it changed everything I thought about Loki. Now, like even when I watch some of the old movies, you know, whatever the original Avengers or whatever and like I watched the other, the Thor, because I own them, I actually bought them I it changed my whole idea of who Loki is when he is in the first Thor movie.
Rick Costa:Yeah, yeah, he's not just evil, evil. No, he's not. No, yeah, no.
Carmen Lezeth:Now you, it's just, it changes it. I mean, maybe we're making too big of a deal, but it was so good.
Rick Costa:It was one of the best things they did. I think everybody says that Loki was one of the best TV shows that Marvel has ever done. Pretty much everybody says that.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, and unlike X-Men 97, you don't have to watch all the backstory in order to enjoy it La la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la la. You don't. You can just watch this series. It'll be good. Yeah, you would enjoy it. So much.
Rick Costa:I've seen a lot of people on YouTube say that they never watched the old cartoon, but they love this new one.
Carmen Lezeth:I saw a lot of people who hated it too.
Rick Costa:I'm sure, I'm sure.
Carmen Lezeth:No, it's interesting. I have a lot of Black friends who didn't like X-Men 97.
Rick Costa:I thought that was fascinating, interesting.
Carmen Lezeth:When I say a lot, I mean three. It's not like I know 75 people who watch X-Men, 97 who are all black. But uh, there were three men. They were like it was whatever, but they didn't watch it. They didn't watch, they didn't know what they were watching. I think you have to be into cartoons too. I do. I think that is a big part of it. I can't relate or connect to a cartoon in the same Like I. That's why I was being funny with you but I had to say you cannot pick a cartoon as your love interest, because I know you would. I'd be like no, I think you have to like cartoons. I don't think there's any cartoon that I'm not connected to.
Cynthia Lopez:I think it's the graphics too, because this generation is so used to seeing all the computerized and all the anime and stuff like that that when you see the X-Men 97, it's drawn out, it's drawn cartoon, so it looks like the original. It's not like this high-tech computerized animation.
Carmen Lezeth:I don't like any animation, but sure.
Rick Costa:I've definitely seen some animation like movies that are just absolutely like oh my gosh, this was so good.
Carmen Lezeth:I loved, like, like what's the movie with? With, uh, the fish, what is it, dory little mermaid?
Cynthia Lopez:or finding nemo.
Carmen Lezeth:Finding nemo was fantastic. I mean, that was you know, but that's you know. And the lion king is one of my favorite. If you want to talk about animation, you know what I mean. And and god, if I don't know if it's still on broadway, but seeing it on broadway was amazing too, but that's a whole different ballgame. But but it's not that I don't like any animation. I'm saying I can't connect to it, like I don't ever need to see frozen or nemo or any of these like I saw them once I was like, oh, those are great, you know. And then I'm done. What's the one with? Um, uh, tom hanks, he's the toy. And Toy Story, toy Story, right, right, right. I think those are fine, but I never need to see them again, like ever. They don't do anything for me. But I can watch Marvel movies over and over and over again. I can watch romantic comedies or political movies or whatever over and over again, no problem, and find new reasons to enjoy them or whatever.
Rick Costa:Interestingly and you know I'm a Marvel person 100, but I would give dc this they. They make better movies, cartoon movies, than so far marvel has, although marvel's catching up.
Carmen Lezeth:But the dc movies are like wow, way, way better quality so far cartoons the cartoons yeah, yeah, I can't help you with that because I haven't seen those either. Sorry, yeah, I can't help you. Hey, jesse, hi, jesse. Oh, my god, I thought that was a middle finger.
Rick Costa:I can't help you with that, because I haven't seen those either.
Carmen Lezeth:Sorry, yeah, I can't help you. Hey Jesse, hi Jesse. Oh my God, I thought that was a middle finger. I was like that's not nice, jesse. I was like that is not cool. Okay, so let's see, I think we're done. Does it matter to be officially married or is it just a piece of paper? That's deep yeah, I'm so glad that I spend time sending you guys the list of stuff, because then you're prepared to well, I mean that that one's kind of a tough one.
Cynthia Lopez:I mean it's like, yes, it is just a piece of paper, um, but I think in the long run legally, you know, especially if there's any type of business partnership between the couple, you know, it's probably a little better than if they weren't married, but then again that could be like a prenup type of thing, if one had money and the other didn't, or vice versa. You know things like that.
Rick Costa:One thing that's fascinated me, though, is because I've heard this a bunch of times people were together for years, never got married, and then decided you know what, let's just get married, and then they break up.
Carmen Lezeth:I was going to say sometimes getting married makes it worse. If I've known relationships like that where they're fine, then they get married and it changes everything.
Rick Costa:It's so weird? I don't get that. That baffles me.
Carmen Lezeth:I mean, I think, like when you think of couples who've been together for a long time, like Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell and I forget who the other ones are, but like, I guess, oprah and Stegman or whatever, whatever the people are who haven't been married- you know, I say whatever works for each other is you know whatever it is, but but there are tax benefits to being married.
Carmen Lezeth:So to me it's like maybe you don't have the big wedding and you don't tell people, but there might be business. You know tax reasons why you might do it on the down low. You know what I mean. I shouldn't say on the down low, cause that confuses people. But look at Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn. They made it work without a paper. Yeah, they also have a lot of reasons, but there's usually children involved too. And then it becomes this kind of thing of you want to protect each other, blah, blah, blah. And then it's like oh, but you don't trust me, oh, my God. And then we've just started fighting about a relationship. That was fine before the conversation of getting married started, you know.
Carmen Lezeth:But it's fascinating, interesting, fascinating, interesting conversation.
Rick Costa:Indeed, indeed. Indeed, I do believe in the institution of marriage. I just I do believe in that.
Carmen Lezeth:I have to say that you do so much that you got divorced. I'm confused what?
Rick Costa:I never said I wanted a divorce. Let's make that clear right up front those words never came out of my mouth.
Carmen Lezeth:He got really alive in that.
Rick Costa:I never, ever, ever. I got a phone call at home hey, we're getting divorced. Yeah, okay, you're not feeling well, no, no, I'm serious. Yeah, okay, yeah, you didn't see it coming. The sheriff's coming to your house on Friday and he's going to bring you the papers. I've changed the locks on the doors. My cousin will bring you all your stuff. I'm like what?
Carmen Lezeth:it coming at all told you I'm oblivious. Nope, nope, wow over the phone I believe marriage is a man-made institution and it's been warped into a very commercialized, very. You know, it's kind of like valentine's day. Like you know, valentine's day is now all about marketing. I hate, hate Valentine's day.
Carmen Lezeth:Prove your love or whatever. You know, I think a true marriage has nothing to do with a piece of paper at all. But you know, again, I mean it just wow, I can't believe. You didn't see it coming. You didn't even have any good friends around you who were like Rick man, I think it's over. Nobody told you. Do you think now you should have gotten married to begin with? Do Do you think now you should have gotten married to begin with? Do you regret getting married? I mean, I know you have your son, so let's forget about it for a moment.
Rick Costa:Yeah, I mean, that's the thing that keeps me sane is that we have an amazing son. You know, despite all the heartache, and it still shocks me today to think about it, because we were like best, best friends for years, you and your wife.
Cynthia Lopez:For years yeah, did she ever explain to you why?
Rick Costa:We'll talk after.
Carmen Lezeth:Yes we will. Okay, everyone, I got to hear the tea. Thank you everyone for stopping by. We really appreciate you coming onto the show, as always. Cynthia, thank you for being here, rick Costa as well, and remember everyone. It is always all about the joy. Good night, everyone, bye. Thanks for stopping by. All About the Joy. Be better and stay beautiful folks. Have a sweet day.