All About The Joy
All About The Joy is a weekly hang-out with friends in the neighborhood! We share insight, advice, funny-isms and we choose to always try and find the positive, the silver lining, the "light" in all of it. AATJ comes from the simple concept that at the end of the day we all want to have more JOY than not. So, this is a cool place to unwind, have a laugh and share some time with friends!
All About The Joy
Jane Fonda's Happiness Curve, Holiday Updates, and Celebrating Daily Life
Imagine adding seven and a half years to your life. Jane Fonda and Ashton Applewhite share how positive beliefs about aging can do just that. The conversation touches on societal views, the U-curve of happiness, and how nurturing community ties can elevate our quality of life. A highlight of our discussion includes the surprising insights on nursing home residency and how challenging these preconceived notions can lead to a more fulfilling journey through aging.
Switching gears, we dive into the dynamic world of content creation, tackling the trials and tribulations of maintaining a consistent social media presence. With firsthand accounts from friends who face the challenges of social media bans, we highlight the importance of diversifying across platforms like TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube. The discussion also covers the struggles of living up to the demands of daily content creation while juggling day jobs, contrasting this with the freedom financial security can provide. Plus, we share our excitement over tech gifts like new laptops that help elevate our broadcasting game.
We celebrate the rich tapestry of cultures and languages that make America unique, while pondering dreams of living in Europe. The episode also touches on communal parenting, the nuances of family dynamics, and the artistry behind the musical "Wicked." Through personal anecdotes and reflections, we extend an invitation to embrace life's diverse experiences, whether through travel, music, or the warm traditions of family gatherings. A fun episode that embodies everything we love about hanging out at All About The Joy.
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Host, Carmen Lezeth
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Hey everybody, Hi, welcome to All About the Joy. Yeah, it's really staticky.
Rick Costa:Yeah, I'm going to disappear and then I'll be back.
Carmen Lezeth:It's all good, I can fill the space. I will do my best While Rick is out. I'm just actually playing with this right now, because this is where we're at. Cynthia is actually not able to join us today. Unfortunately, someone in her family is in the hospital and there's an emergency situation. She's fine, her husband is fine, but there was an emergency surgery. I didn't want to ask too much, so I want to send love and prayers to her and just hope that she's going to be fine. She said she might tune in, but she's not going to tune in. I'm not going to even accept her to tune in, because that'd be ridiculous, but yeah.
Carmen Lezeth:So earlier today, restream turned around and told us that we couldn't schedule Restreams. We had to just go live right away, which makes things really difficult for us, because when we schedule it, then everybody comes on, first in the green room and then we all just kind of hang out together. So you know, this is a thing. This is how it goes here. So we're just waiting for Rick to see if he can come back, and in the meantime, I'm just going to see if I can play this video that I wanted to. You know what? I want to wait till Rick comes, though, because that's going to be weird.
Carmen Lezeth:I appreciate all of you who are watching. It's so weird to just talk to myself, but it's a TikTok thing, so I'm actually really good at it. I'm trying to be really consistent with TikTok, and it's been so difficult. I think if you work 50, 60 hours a week doing social media and trying to gain that whole brand thing is a really difficult thing to do, so bravo to all of you who are doing it. I also know that everyone is doing TikTok and then transferring their videos onto Instagram, which is cool too. I haven't been able to do that because I'm just not that smart or that with it, so let me play this video, if I can. I'm going to play this piece and hopefully by then Rick will have shown up, but this was a great interview on CBS, I think, this morning or whatever and it was just really fun and cool and I thought I would share it with all of you because, at the end of the day, it really is all about the joy.
CBS Sunday Morning:Academy Award winner Jane Fonda, who happens to be Ted Turner's former wife and good friend, turns 87 later this month. This morning she shares secrets for aging gracefully.
Jane Fonda:Hi, I'm Jane Fonda. You might know me from being Jane Fonda for the last 86 years, so I know a lot about aging well, and I'm here to tell you something very important. You are being robbed of seven and a half years of your life. I'll explain, but first let me introduce you to my friend. Can I say?
CBS Sunday Morning:sorry, I have a foul mouth.
Jane Fonda:That's Ashton Applewhite, and yeah, that is her real name. Yeah, it sounds made up. In the next few minutes, ashton and I are gonna add seven and a half years to your life.
CBS Sunday Morning:That's a lot of time. People with more positive age beliefs lived an average of seven and a half years longer than people who equated aging with disease and decline.
Jane Fonda:In other words, one way to live longer is just to have a good attitude, but society is doing literally everything it can to make sure we don't have a good attitude. From the beauty industry, simply ageless, to what we see every day in the news. Questions are being raised now how old is too old to remain in office? Lots of people assume we'll end up in the nursing homes, when in fact, less than 3% of us do Unbelievable. Of course, that doesn't stop us from talking about our senior moments.
CBS Sunday Morning:Oh, senior moment. Young people forget things too all the time. When I lost the car keys in high school, I didn't call it a junior moment. We are so brainwashed to equate old age with disease and decline and badness, all that stuff will lead you to believe that getting older is terrible.
Jane Fonda:That's not just a little insulting, it's wrong.
CBS Sunday Morning:Come on show me the science Ashton. People are happiest at the beginnings and the ends of their lives. It's called the U-curve of happiness and it's been borne out by dozens of studies around the world.
Jane Fonda:No wonder it looks like a smiley face. So what do we need to make that happiness curve rise? Do we need perfect health?
CBS Sunday Morning:Nope.
Jane Fonda:Money.
CBS Sunday Morning:Nope, microdosing. I cannot answer that with a straight face. I give up. It's having a solid community, the most important component of a good old age.
Jane Fonda:I know what you're about to say. How do I build community if I don't already have one? There's a million ways to do it, but I'm going to talk about one that you can start right away, from almost anywhere. Wait what? Hey? Take it from me. It is true, Could you go back? Art classes are a great way to build community.
CBS Sunday Morning:We know that being in community is good for us. We know that having purpose is good for us, but the health benefits of being in art class in specific, it turns out, are fascinating. A national endowment for the arts.
Jane Fonda:Study found art classes for older adults increased mental engagement, increased physical activity. They found new or stronger relationships.
CBS Sunday Morning:They visit the doctor less often, they are less likely to fall. All this art behind me was made by older people in art classes, and I define art broadly Singing, theater, dance, flower arranging, graffiti. Maybe I take a DJ class, wow.
Jane Fonda:I can feel the seven and a half years coming back. We should reframe having a senior moment. A woman named Barbara Hillary was the first Black woman to reach the North Pole and she was 75 years old. Unbelievable Senior moment. So much of your life gets better as you age. We get less stressed, we become kinder to ourselves and braver, we're less judgmental and, best of all, we stop caring so much about what other people think of us, which, believe me, saves a lot of time.
CBS Sunday Morning:Aging is the one universal human experience. It is a process of growth and self-knowledge that is a joy.
Jane Fonda:Who knows what my next seven and a half years will bring. I'm ready for my senior moment.
Carmen Lezeth:Oh, that is such a great video. Okay, I'm sorry, rick Can you hear me. Yeah.
Rick Costa:Is it too loud? Not too loud, not loud no, you're good, you're good.
Carmen Lezeth:Hi, melanie, how are you? Hey, melanie wait, what did you? I know you only saw half of that or whatever, but I love that video so much you know what's really funny?
Rick Costa:coincidence is so I saw somebody mention her an interview with Bill Meyer. How do you ever say his name, how?
Carmen Lezeth:do you not know, bill Maher Come on Bill Maher.
Rick Costa:I couldn't remember how to say his last name, bill Maher. Yeah, I was like I just saw an interview with him and her and I was like that's funny, quince, and I turned it on. I was like, wait, I just watched her.
Carmen Lezeth:But one of the reasons why I it's this idea of joy, no matter like she talks about, that, like having a positive attitude will help you live longer, and I totally believe that. But it's not even live longer, it's live better. But it's just this idea of having a better attitude about aging. And if you have a better attitude about aging, that alone will give you seven and a half more years of living. That's what the statistics say, because people always think that as they get older, they're going to fall and hurt themselves and go into a nursing home. The statistic of nursing homes it's only 3% of people who are older who end up in nursing homes.
Carmen Lezeth:But if you had told me that before watching this video, I would have been like 95%. So it's just really, to me it was one of those things that I felt really empowered by, and I know a lot of you don't follow me on TikTok, but I'm going through this gray hair journey oh, I've talked about it here, right, because I've gotten my hair and I'm in the point right now where I really I want to color my hair again because I don't think I can do it, but I'm trying to embrace getting older and letting the grays come in and you can't see it here. It's not fair. But if you were in person you would see there's so much gray. And so I'm trying to be more positive and happy about getting older, because I don't mind the gray if it would just be all gray. But it's a weird like gray and then the rest is just weird. You know what I mean.
Rick Costa:But I just watched a podcast yesterday with Mary McDonald oh yeah and she she had her hair was really wild but very blonde, but all kinds of different kinds of blonde and the interviewer was Katie Sackhoff and she was like I love your hair. She was getting gray and I was trying to do something different and she goes now. You don't even really pay attention to the gray because there's so many colors in here and she's like I love it. You look young, she's like I do.
Carmen Lezeth:Well, that's what. So okay, so. So Molly just said who's getting older. I'm staying at 20. Girl you 29,. I'm 39. I'm going to stay at 39. I'm okay with 39. You know what I mean? I'm just 10 years older than you.
Carmen Lezeth:Andrea has been doing this for a long time. So when you see Andrea, she looks on screen like she has just all this blonde hair. So it was like four or five years ago where she started doing the kind of all this highlighting stuff. And I mean she's always had light brown blonde hair anyways, with highlights or whatever. But it just I was like, ooh, you're going all blonde, or whatever. She's like no, honey, I'm going all gray. And so her hair is really, it's just so beautiful, it's just, and that's what we're going with. But the problem is I have dark hair, so it's a little bit different. You know what I mean? Melanie said don't hate me, I seriously do not have any gray. I hate you so much because you know why, because, why? Because you didn't have to say that, you didn't need to tell me. So you digging it in. Girl, no, I don't hate you. A lot of it is genetics.
Rick Costa:Believe it or not, my mom was 16 when she started getting gray hairs.
Carmen Lezeth:Oh no. I have a friend when I was growing up who lived across the way from us on saint rose street. I'll never forget it. She was going gray when we were like 14 years old. Her whole family has a lot of gray hair and they're all like white or whatever. Now, you know, I don't really talk to them that much, but they're on my facebook page.
Rick Costa:I like what totally white?
Carmen Lezeth:I think that looks cool I asked if I could just go platinum or something like just do the complete change right now, let's just get, and he was like it's going to damage your hair, like you can't, like you can. He's like we can cut your hair. But of course I asked all of you and your, everybody there was not one person who thought it was a good idea that I shaved my hair off, not one Cause. He was like you could do it. That way you could cut off your hair, like we could do a really cute cut, and then that will be easier because the new growth will come in, then we'll. And I'm like okay, and then all of you were mean, all of you were horrible and not at all supportive there was another.
Rick Costa:I keep watching a lot of katie sack off. I'm bringing her up again. So she had trisha helfer, I think her name is. She was a character with her on Battlestar Galactica and she's one of the Cylons and her hair was like platinum blonde, practically not white, but she's like they had to dye it because she has brown hair. And she kept saying I think this is damaging my hair. Can I get a wig? This is, and they're like, oh, it's too expensive. So then one day she said she sat down at the chair, they went to brush her hair and a ton of hair just came right off her head and she was like wig, that's it.
Carmen Lezeth:I'm not doing this. Yeah, I've been. I've said this on a tiktok, I've said this here before, whatever. So I'm sorry if I'm being so repetitive, but I don't know what happened to me as a child, like in this. I know you know what I mean.
Carmen Lezeth:Like, for some reason, gray hair for me, not on other people, like I like gray hair on men, I like great. Other people can work that magic, I mean, but for some reason gray hair is the thing that knocks me to my core. Everything else I can handle, droopiness in places I never thought would be droopy, like my neck, my areas I'm like, as I'm getting older, those things don't bother me as much. And the wrinkles or whatever you deal with those, that doesn't bother me so much. But the gray hair, I don't know what it is, I don't. And I was trying to think, if I remembered my mother with gray hair, like maybe that had something. I was trying to be all deep about it, there's some therapy I need to do, but then outing, there's some therapy I need to do. But then I was like, ah, fuck it, I just don't like gray hair on me, that's all and so if I don't like gray hair, if I could do the whole thing gray now, I think that would be different.
Carmen Lezeth:I don't like this streaks right it's not even streaks, it goes like this so it's gray right here and it's not gray hair. See, there's no, you can see it. There's no gray in this area, but it's all here and here, you can see it. You know's no gray in this area, but it's all here and here, you can see it. You know what I mean. And of course so the hairdresser, because this is the first time I met him, or whatever. Michael Bechet, he's amazing, he's in Venice Beach, whatever, and he was like the back of your hair is all gray. And he took a picture. He's like it's all gray. I'm like, yeah, I don't see the back.
Carmen Lezeth:I just know we're here. It was really funny, but I loved this video with Jane Fonda, everyone. If you weren't able to watch the whole thing, check it out. It's four minutes, it's very empowering. And the whole thing is if you have a better positive attitude about aging, it's going to add years to your life and I think, more importantly than adding years because you don't know you could hit by a bus you don't know whatever You're going to add years to your life and I think, more importantly than adding years because you don't know you could hit by a bus you don't know whatever You're going to be a happier person if you live a more positive lifestyle. I think that's the important thing. But let's rewind for a minute, rick. It's been a long time since it's just been you and me, baby.
Rick Costa:I know, I know.
Carmen Lezeth:How you doing I'm okay, doing okay.
Rick Costa:Got a lovely gift on Thanksgiving that I'm actually using right this very minute.
Carmen Lezeth:I know, do you want to tell everybody what it is?
Rick Costa:My brother I guess as a thank you for helping mom, got me a brand new laptop.
Carmen Lezeth:I am so happy for it Now. So I say this respectfully did you need one? It was time. Not really, not really okay, but it's always good to upgrade. If you've had it for the four years, it's good cynthia take note you know what?
Carmen Lezeth:okay, let me tell you something. So last night, cynthia reached out to me. I'm gonna say this. She reached out to me. She's what are you doing? I'm like I'm very busy. I wasn't. I was watching what reruns, so we got online. We got online, we got on here. We didn't go live, but she got her iPad early for Christmas. Doesn't work very well because there's a sound issue, whatever, but we were trying to figure it out. So I still think she should get a new phone, but she's resistant to that. I'm proud of her for getting the iPad, not iPad. What is it like? What is it when it's not a mac, whatever it is.
Carmen Lezeth:Tablet, yeah, like a tablet, yeah, so are you loving the new computer? Or it's a laptop, right?
Rick Costa:it's a laptop and a tablet and it's also a touch screen, so I forget half the time that I can just tap the screen and do whatever yeah, I know, but I don't use mine that much.
Carmen Lezeth:Mine is. I think you have the same one that I don't know if you have the same one that I do, but I I don't use my touch screen or the laptop, the tablet do you.
Carmen Lezeth:It's new so I haven't had a big chance yet to use it, but I mean I can see definitely coming in handy, um yeah, I think what's cool about my laptop is I can turn it and mount it like not mount, not mount it, but you can flip. I'm just going to get it. Hold on one second so you can get it right. So mine is a it's called Yoga, it's a Lenovo, okay, and you can do it like this and so I use it like this, so that you can just put it like that and then you can watch television. You know what I mean. Like, you can do it that way. So I like that about it, but I don't use it like this. I don't like that, because all the keys are I don't know, I don't like it, I don't use it. So yours is this one. Right, you have this kind of same one.
Rick Costa:It's yeah, just like that.
Carmen Lezeth:Yes, that's the same thing, it doesn't matter. The brand doesn't matter to me. Yeah, yeah, cool. So you're excited.
Rick Costa:It's nice and fast. I give it that for sure.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, how did your broadcast go today with that? Was it good?
Rick Costa:It's fine. Yeah, it's good. And the one thing that's really cool too is so the mixer I use, which I'm using right now, but since the other ones have an issue now, so you know the indicator with the green and the yellow and the red, the volume, right. With the other computer it seemed like with my when I talked it was just always jumping red. Just keep doing it.
Rick Costa:It was going too high like volume wise or something, constantly, even if I whatever, but this one it early where it really wasn't working that great with the other computer, but this is how it's supposed to work. So, yeah, I'm going to send back to a replay and I'm like, yeah, sounds good.
Carmen Lezeth:Singing sounds good. With the music, everything's good. Oh, I'm so glad that was nice of your brother. Was that a Christmas gift or just a regular gift Like?
Rick Costa:regular gift. He didn't say it was Christmas, but I might as well consider it Christmas.
Carmen Lezeth:No, that's a nice gift, that's a cool gift. I like that, okay cool. What else did you do during Thanksgiving, since we didn't really get to talk because we didn't have a Thanksgiving show, and we didn't get to really talk about Thanksgiving because the broadcast we had beforehand was a little bit of a bummer. Joel had come on the show and it was just such a bad time because he had gotten all of his accounts I forget deleted or-.
Rick Costa:Any update with that or?
Carmen Lezeth:He still doesn't have them deleted or any update with that, or he still doesn't have them on. I know I haven't talked to joel since the show or a couple days after the show, whatever, but I think he was trying to find a positive way towards it and then be like I'm gonna post on other socials and just build that up again or whatever, and still try to fight it. It's really hard once. Once you get what's the word Not deleted off of meta, but once you get banned, once you get banned off of a social media thing, it's hard to get back on, even with all the resources available to try to get back on. It's hard because they ban your account and then if you go to appeal, you have to use the account that was banned, but you can't get the code. It's so that's what he was frustrated with, um oh, dang it, daniel.
Rick Costa:Oh, what's the last name? It's those four brothers that are all actors alex daniel, steven, baldwin. Yes, I couldn't get a last name, baldwin, he was on another. I'm super big. If you haven't guessed already, I'm watching a lot of podcasts lately. So he was saying that he got banned off of youtube, but he's. Can you please explain to me what I'm banned for? Because he goes. Everything I used is from youtube, but you're not banning them yeah, but you can't use okay, so I'm gonna play.
Carmen Lezeth:Okay, wait, let's back up for a minute. I don't know what that whole situation is, but you can't use, okay, so I'm going to play. Okay, wait, let's back up for a minute. I don't know what that whole situation is, but you can't use other people's content as content for yourself, completely and without talking about it.
Rick Costa:Oh, no, he was he said I'm sorry. He definitely was. He used to do a podcast. He would talk about different things and he'd show like little clips and then talk about it.
Carmen Lezeth:So oh they different things and just show like little clips and then talk about it. So oh, they might abandon for something else. Hey, look at, I was just on tiktok and I got not banned, but they said that my something I said was wrong, so they're eliminating it. They were like you said something bad and I'm like what did I say? I'm like you don't let me see it, so I don't know what I said. The most like I got banned off a tumblr.
Rick Costa:I don't let me see it, so I don't know what I said, what I hate the most? Like I got banned off a Tumblr. I don't know if anybody uses that anymore.
Carmen Lezeth:Oh, a Tumblr is an old blog post.
Rick Costa:It's an old one and I had that forever and ever and ever. And three times I emailed them and said can you please tell me what I did? At least Nothing.
Carmen Lezeth:So with TikTok, there's more than a few times that I've said something and they're like you are going against whatever, and I'm like no one's responding to what the you can't ban me when all I'm saying is what the person said in the comments. Like if the person is saying a TikTok and they're being like blah, blah, blah and I'm like referring to that, how can you leave the content creator on but then ban my comments? I don't, and every time I've appealed those they've come back because it's computerized, it's AI, so they're just looking for words. I don't know what I said, but they banned one of my comments or whatever, and I was like whatever. But that's very different than getting banned off of meta or getting banned completely your profile, like a comment being banned, or a tiktok, like one specific video, being banned. That's different. So I don't know. I wish joel well, but I don't. I did everything I could. I sent him all my contacts that I can, but I can only do so much and unfortunately, meta is facebook instagram is Facebook Instagram Threads.
Rick Costa:It's not just one, it's a bunch.
Carmen Lezeth:Yep, it is.
Rick Costa:He was definitely more psyched about Instagram. That was the one I think he was most bummed about.
Carmen Lezeth:I think that's a good teaching tool for us, though, to also realize you don't want to put all your eggs in one basket, and what I'm realizing is a lot of the TikTok creators who are getting big, especially creators who are getting big especially because they're not paying attention, Like so many people are not watching mainstream media anymore, so there's a lot of these content creators. They're now going to YouTube as their main source and then going out to Instagram and TikTok. So it's an interesting thing. I just it's a lot of work. I look at for two weeks since Thanksgiving to write. I have not posted anything and I use a third-party platform, so I sit and I create all the little snippets when you see the little video things or whatever and then I schedule them. It's a lot of work.
Carmen Lezeth:So people that are doing live ones, like they're reacting to what's happening, that's a lot. I don't know how. You have a job. That has to be your job, and that's what a lot of them are. They're content creators. You know what I mean, and I don't know. I'll be honest with you. I've been thinking about this a lot. I don't know if that's something I'd even want to do, to be like every day being on TikTok and Instagram and reacting to something or saying something, but there's money to be made.
Rick Costa:Yeah, I've been following these kind of a group of different guys and they broadcast together a lot and they all have their own thing and they're literally on almost every single day and they'll have five, six, seven, eight people all on the screen and those types of videos seem to be getting popular. And they're not short videos either, they're very long.
Carmen Lezeth:Well, I mean, I told you one of the things I want to do. You and I are going to do like a Tik TOK together. We're going to do like a Tik TOK live or whatever at some point, and I think what would be great for me. What I would love to do is have another show during the week. If we could have three shows a week. I think that would be cool.
Carmen Lezeth:With my job and your job it's just hard. You know what I mean. Like I need to get some money. You know. We all I think everyone would be doing things they want to be doing if they had a bulk of money to spend doing it.
Carmen Lezeth:I think that's the thing about wealth that's really hard to grasp is when you're born into wealth or you have an amount of money to expend and you can fail with that money, for example, like an Elon Musk. I'm not trying to get political, but the thing about being someone who is wealthy is you can throw everything at the wall and if things fail, okay, they fail, but you're not going to lose your apartment, you're not going to lose your car, you don't have to pay your car payment every month or your insurance, because it's just extra money you have. So if you fail, it's fine and nobody is paying attention. If I fail, I'm living at Andrea's house or your house. I'm like, hey, rick, I lost my home. You know what I mean.
Carmen Lezeth:You know what I mean and I think that's what's interesting is not understanding that when we see people succeed who come from wealth or come from a space of privilege meaning they have a bulk of money somewhere whether they made it or not doesn't matter Like not everyone gets those lucky moments where they get somebody who gives them a loan, gives them. If somebody wanted to give me a $200,000 loan, I'm telling you right now, in one year this place would be on fire, and I think that's the hard part. I think you, if you didn't have to work and you had $200,000 a year at your disposal, what would I know? Right off the bat, you would hire someone in house to help with your mom and you'd be on fire with your broadcast.
Carmen Lezeth:Like in a whole different level, you'd have a marketing person would go crazy right and and here's the thing I'm not trying to say that money makes the world go round, but money matters so there's actually a Bible verse that says money solves most problems. Well, I don't know if I believe all that but you know what I mean. Because, again, we go back to my clients who have a lot of money and I wouldn't trade my life for theirs because they're miserable.
Carmen Lezeth:I think you can be wealthy and joyful I'm not trying to say that and be wealthy and joyful. I'm not trying to say that. But most people who have a lot of money that I, in my experience in my 30 years of working with people, I've not seen I wouldn't trade my life for theirs at all. That doesn't mean I don't want a lottery win. You know what I mean. It doesn't mean I'm not hoping, and I play once in a while. But you had a good Thanksgiving yeah.
Rick Costa:Last night, though, I had a little surprise. I got up and looked out the window and I was like no, it was snow on the ground. I was like.
Carmen Lezeth:I'm not sure. I'm from Connecticut. I ain't even feeling bad for you. That cannot be a surprise, you live on the East Coast.
Rick Costa:Yeah, but for the last few years it almost hasn't snowed till like January, so I was like early December.
Carmen Lezeth:That's not a surprise, that's just you being in denial of where you live. Okay, all right, here's my question. Did you listen to Kendrick Lamar's latest album, or the song Luther? How could you not? I posted it on my Facebook page. How could you not? I posted on my facebook page how could you not see?
Rick Costa:I don't really look at facebook a whole lot, to be honest oh, okay, I'm very disappointed.
Carmen Lezeth:You all right, we're going to listen to a little part of it, because this will tell me if you're okay, here's why. Here's why first of all, it's an amazing song. You may not like it, but and you don't have to like rap you don't have to like rap or hip-hop or anything, but if you don't understand the first 35, 40 seconds, which is all I can play, then you're not really gen x. That's how I feel about now. I I will say this I played it for cynthia and she was like yeah, that's all right. She was all like and you might feel the same way, but I, I just feel like I need to play this. Okay, let's see if I can do it. I don't even know if I can do it.
Rick Costa:You don't get in copyright trouble.
Carmen Lezeth:No, you can do snippets. Here's the thing about people need to understand. You can do snippets and do an analysis. What you can't do is play the entire song or use it as a thing in your show to promote your show, like I can't make the beginning. You know what I mean Kendrick Lamar show, but who knows, maybe they'll ban me, I don't know. It's all right, we're just going with the flow here, but that's my understanding.
Carmen Lezeth:That's why you can see so many people using songs and they're talking about it. I think the thing that Tony does that's interesting is that he plays songs from beginning to end and he's acting like a DJ and without a license or whatever to do that. And because there's a lot of people on TikTok who are DJs, like they do live streaming, whatever, but you have to have a license, you have to have permission to do it and that's a whole different ballgame. But you see a lot of people doing snippets. You can do a certain amount of time and then you can talk about it as an analysis. You're not stealing their work to use it as your own. I think that's really different. Although we will see If this show does not show up on YouTube, you'll know it was banned.
Rick Costa:You cannot be monetized. I'm like we ain't monetized anyway, ain't worried about it.
Carmen Lezeth:Are you giving me some money? Then I will follow your rules, bitch. No, I'm just kidding. Look, all we need is 30 seconds of the song. It's so funny because I just did that one so brilliantly and I forgot how I did it. Weren't you impressed by how I did that? I?
Rick Costa:came out and I was like oh, we're playing a video.
Carmen Lezeth:Look Carmen's on point, can you see it? Yep, all right, just 30 seconds. Okay, I'm going to stop it right there because I don't want to get banned, but do you get it?
Rick Costa:you get the feeling yeah, something not to be critical. It sounds like a lot of auto tuning there well, kendrick lamar okay that's what it sounds like I can no, sweetie.
Carmen Lezeth:Okay, first of all, do you know who kendrick lamar is? I don't know okay you're missing the whole point. You don't know.
Rick Costa:That's luther vandross or was that in the beginning?
Carmen Lezeth:Oh my God, okay, you would say that, okay, everyone, you're missing the point. That's not auto-tune and Kendrick Lamar, just so you know and I'm a defendant for a moment and I'm not a big hip hop rap person, I'm not. I do love Tupac and Biggie and Back in the Day and that whole kind of thing, but Kendrick Lamar won a Pulitzer because he's such a lyricist, right, he is an amazing. He's poetic the way in which he but that song that he's using as a sample and that's the way you sample children. If you don't know how to sample a song, that's how you sample. That's Luther Vandross. I didn't catch that. That's Luther Vandross. I didn't catch that.
Carmen Lezeth:Okay, you and Cynthia are like the only people. So I have a client who he's older or whatever, but he's always in the know. So I was like, hey, did you hear Kendrick Lamar's latest album? He's no, I didn't. I was like, oh, let me play it for you. And he was like, oh my God, it was so good. So SZA shows up as well. I don't think you're really gen x. I'm so sorry. This isn't about rap or hip-hop either. This is about just, you don't know. Do you know who? Luther?
Carmen Lezeth:hey ted why are you writing lufa ted vandross?
Rick Costa:lufa vandross. People say that, people say that hey, I'm looking for a chair is still a chair yeah, I'm looking for that.
Carmen Lezeth:You didn't even get it.
Rick Costa:Man, I can't believe you said kendrick, and I wasn't thinking anybody else but you okay, auto-tune, girl.
Carmen Lezeth:I am saying, girl, what is wrong with you? Like kendrick, that's like saying whitney houston was using auto-tune. For you to understand that's like.
Rick Costa:You can use auto-tune and be a good singer. Auto-tune does not mean I'm such a bad singer I have to use auto-tune.
Carmen Lezeth:You can use auto-tune here's the thing auto-tune, that was a diss. I'm just saying that was a diss. Auto-tune is for people who say they can sing but don't really can sing and they need the echoing and all that shit in the background. Whitney Houston never needed auto-tune. Now did they use it at times? That's different. That's a whole different thing. But there are people who can actually sing Lufa. I don't understand the Lufa thing.
Rick Costa:People say that to be funny. Lufa Vandross, it's just a funny thing, people say oh okay.
Carmen Lezeth:Funny thing, people say, oh okay. I'm like let me just tell you I okay. So here, I'm not trying to be mean to you, but I'm like I think this is a good test of whether or not you're really Gen X. I'm just kidding you are Gen X, right? I'm 54.
Rick Costa:I'll be 55 next month.
Carmen Lezeth:Oh, I know, and I messed up your birthday, didn't I? No, you didn't?
Rick Costa:I don't really do nothing on my birthday, so no, that's good actually.
Carmen Lezeth:So we're going to celebrate your birthday the week before and the week after, and Cynthia and I already discussed it. We'll sing to you on that birthday on that day. Yeah, we're going to have a, so we were supposed to have. I'm glad we didn't do it. We're supposed to have a guest today, christy Holt. She's going to come on the show. She's interesting person and we're going to have her on the show. I'm going to talk about what she does and she does a lot of relationship coaching stuff and I'm going to find it just fascinating. That's all I want to say.
Carmen Lezeth:But we had to move her from today because I realized it was just too much time between when Joel was on and we didn't get to talk about, like Thanksgiving or whatever, and then we didn't have a show last week and I was like we can't have somebody a new guest, on the show this week. It was just not cool, you know. All right, here's what I want to. I have some announcements to make too. So, yes, there was an earthquake today. It was a 7.0 earthquake in california. I know you say you love me, but you were one of the people who did not send me a tip. I didn't know.
Rick Costa:I'm just saying, if you were in the know, you say you love me, but you were one of the people who did not send me a text.
Carmen Lezeth:I didn't know. I'm just saying if you were in the know you would have alerts. I'm kidding, it's OK. So here's the thing. It wasn't here in Southern California. So I appreciate everyone who texted me today. Laura Wall texted me. A lot of people sent me a text. I just want to give you guys a heads up of something. Sent me a text. I just want to give you guys a heads up of something. Northern California and it did happen in Northern California is like seven hours from me. So California is very big. So when they say there's an earthquake and again I don't mind if you text me or whatever it was just funny because at one point there must've been some newsflash, because they got 15 text messages at the same time about the same thing.
Carmen Lezeth:It was weird.
Rick Costa:You might as well say it was an earthquake in the United States.
Carmen Lezeth:Is Carmen. Okay, but it was a 7.0. Let me tell you something 7.0 is for real. Yeah, it's a big one, that's huge, that's off the scale.
Rick Costa:I have not been. God bless, Please, Lord don't Please.
Carmen Lezeth:That's huge. That's off the scale. I have not been. God bless, please, lord don't please. I'm serious. I don't want to be in a 7.0 earthquake, but there was also a tsunami warning and I think that's what everyone was concerned about. Much love to people in Northern California. It's above the San Francisco area, near Oregon, but it wasn't me. I'm good. I'm good, I'm fine. I'm in Southern California, I'm in Los Angeles, santa Monica, if you hear anything about Malibu or the Palisades. And here's the thing If you send me a text I was thinking about this today If you send me a text and I'm in an earthquake, I'm probably not going to text you back.
Rick Costa:You know what Darcy's in oregon I want? Do you still there?
Carmen Lezeth:darcy, did you feel it?
Rick Costa:oh yeah, oh is darcy in oregon she's like really close to washington state, so she's way up more north maybe.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah I did not know that. Okay, maybe she. She was on here, so maybe she's okay. Hopefully she's okay.
Carmen Lezeth:You know she didn't write anything like a big populated area I didn't see anything about it because I was at work and I was texting people. I was copying and pasting, I'm fine. Thank you for asking. You know what I mean. Like, I just I did look at. I am grateful and blessed that so many people were worried. That's not what I'm saying, but it was northern california which I think people was no, people who've never been to California and don't know Right, california is huge people. It's very big and it is six to seven hours for me to get to San Francisco. You know what I mean. Like it's not so something. So if there are wildfires and they're happening in five hours for me, they're not really affecting me.
Rick Costa:Do you know how long it would take to drive from the northern part to the very southern part?
Carmen Lezeth:No, but I have done the trip from no, because that would be like San Diego. So for me where I am in Los Angeles, to San Diego it's about two hours. If I were to go to Mexico, like if I would go to the border of Mexico, it would be like two hours, Two hours, 20 minutes, something like that. I have done the drive many times because it is the most beautiful, exquisite drive to go from here, from where I live in Los Angeles, to San Francisco or to like Midway Carmel or to Santa Barbara or Santa Barbara Spurs. So Santa Barbara Carmel, like just gorgeous, and it's all along the beach. You just go PCH Route 1. It's just beautiful and that took about. I think it was about five hours, four or five hours and I've done that multiple times with friends, with friends. So going on vacation or whatever and just going to hang out, it's just beautiful. It's a beautiful drive if you ever come to Los Angeles, because it's all against the beach, yeah.
Rick Costa:Yeah, my little state. I think if you were to go end-to-end, it's not even two hours, I don't think.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, connecticut. I don't know what to say about Connecticut Small. Have you been out? I mean, I say this respectfully, have you been outside? Obviously?
Rick Costa:new york because we're right next to it, been in massachusetts, been to the city, of course, okay, but okay, between new york and massachusetts, which one's better? Well, it depends, because we're talking about the city a whole different animal.
Carmen Lezeth:Massachusetts is the answer.
Rick Costa:Massachusetts we used to go to fall river, which is that called portuguese city, which is in massachusetts, for those that don't know, yeah, and it was. It is so portuguese there that I remember we went into a couple stores and they didn't speak english. You had to speak portuguese. I'm like right, are you serious? I mean, this is super portuguese. I was like wow. But yeah, no, I love massachusetts too yeah, I'm kidding.
Carmen Lezeth:So there is a rivalry between Massachusetts and New York. Like I told you before, like when you're born in Massachusetts, you just hate New York to your core. Because it's all about the sports teams, right? It's all about the Lakers, oh, that's Los Angeles Celtics and the Knicks. Yeah, I'm California now, so I can't even. I'm all confused, just all of it. So I'm kidding. I love New York, but I would never live in New York. I could see myself living in Massachusetts again. I wouldn't, but I could Like if I had to for some reason. Oh my God, I can't put that out in the universe, because it'll happen. Oh my God. No, I want to live in spain or portugal.
Rick Costa:I want to live in portugal I was just watching some videos of where my parents come from azores and people americans were like taking you to tours and stuff, and I was like this is so beautiful, my gosh, it's so beautiful. They're like and if you ever think you're not gonna have nothing to do, trust me, there's so much to see and do and it was beautiful.
Carmen Lezeth:So Andrea's mom just came back from. She went on a trip and she went to Spain and Portugal and she told Andrea that if you're going to move somewhere, it's to move to Portugal, not Spain. And my intention would be to move to Spain because I know the language In Portuguese. Even though I can make some words out, it's like Italian. I could probably get by, but it's not the same.
Rick Costa:There's a lot more English people now. Not English, but English people.
Carmen Lezeth:Oh no, of course, but you know, I mean that's in every country across the pond, right, we're the only country that doesn't know several languages. Seriously, people in Europe know three or four different languages.
Rick Costa:It's us people in europe know three or four different languages. It's it's not that's me off so bad. When you see these and they're usually racist people you're like you're in america, speak english. I'm like, no, you're trying to make it sound like they're dumb. They're smarter than you because they actually do know more than one language.
Carmen Lezeth:Dummy yeah, I don't know what that's about. I feel like there's a weird understanding of what patriotic kind of love for your country is, and this whole idea that you need to be able to speak English and that's the only language you should know and if you don't know that somehow you're bad, is a weird ism. I've always been enthralled by the idea. I do speak two languages and I can get by with Italian, but I speak Spanish fluently and I understand it better than I speak it. But people who speak multiple languages in this country have a leg up because they can communicate with so many different people.
Rick Costa:Helps you get jobs too. Like, oh, you also speak another language, but some types of jobs, like everybody always says, please put that on your resume. If you don't want to speak another language, that will definitely help you. If you're going to learn a language, why wouldn't you want Spanish? Because there's so many Spanish people here, compared to French. I want to learn French. I'm like okay, but is that going to be really useful?
Carmen Lezeth:I think the problem. And then we get into this little bit of politics thing. I think people have a different idea, or a negative idea, of people who speak Spanish or from Latin countries, because they associate everything with immigration and the border and somehow that has been made the boogeyman of things, and it's a shame, because the beauty of this country, as with your family, is just that we are all. We've all come here, unless you are someone who is indigenous to this country. We've all come here. I don't care how far you go back, and we've brought our culture here right.
Carmen Lezeth:The Irish came here, italians came here, italians came here, portuguese came here, people from Poland, cubans are here. Puerto Ricans are United States citizens, so I hope you all understand that. But people from Mexico have come here, honduras, any parts of America, el Salvador, like Haitian people, and it's Asian people, can we not? I have to make sure that we throw in people from all the different beautiful countries. I mean Korea, japanese. We have so many different cultures, but I think we squander it because we want to keep believing in a weird purity that isn't really sustainable in the world and it's also boring. We can all be Americans, but with the flavor. That's what makes us fantastic.
Rick Costa:I've always said that Everybody with this name. How boring would this world be, so boring? I saw a really funny video of this. This was two people jogging. It was a white guy and clearly an Asian lady and he stopped. They were resting, whatever, and they don't know each other. And he's like where are you from? From San Francisco, yeah, but before that, I was born in San Francisco. That's awesome. But before that, before I was born, my great-grandmother's from Korea. I knew I thought it was Japan or Korea. Oh, okay, what about you? Where are you from? He goes oh, I was born here too. What about going back? We had some British people. Oh, really, you had some British people, really.
Rick Costa:And she totally made fun of him talking in British. It was hilarious.
Carmen Lezeth:It's so funny too, because sometimes when you ask people, they'll just say oh no, I'm just American, I'm just I'm white, I'm white. You'll hear that, and it's no, you have a lineage too. Maybe you're Scottish or Polish or Irish or like, well, we're British. Whatever it is, you bring a whole other culture with you, you know, and I think that's kind of the sad thing about how divided our country is. I do think we would be a better country if we all did know Spanish. It would be a fantastic thing. I'm always sad because when I talk to friends or my clients I'm not going to call them friends but clients, because my clients have homes and business in other countries or whatever. All of those people speak multiple languages. They all speak two or three different languages. So it's kind of sad.
Rick Costa:What it would be the most useful here. I mean besides English here, because there's so many. Hello, pick up the phone. Para español obrimados.
Carmen Lezeth:Or it would just make us. Just when we know more, we're just better human beings, like, I know what you're saying, but I think people innately in this country tend to be very standoffish about people that they believe are from other cultures, and so when you talk about the other language, they turn away from that, as opposed to seeing the beauty in that right, because somehow it's not American to speak Spanish or it's not American to speak whatever it is. I don't know what the right, I don't know what to use, like Italian or something. It's not right to do that. You have to be somebody who only speaks English.
Carmen Lezeth:You know, melanie said I remember a little Spanish from high school who only speaks English. You know, melanie said I remember a little Spanish from high school oh, ¿quieres hablar conmigo un poquito, por favor? But yeah, I think if we could all speak different languages it would be great. It's kind of an embarrassing thing, but you know what? I found out something over the weekend and I was so sad. 50% of people in the United States do not read above an eighth grade level. I was shook by this. I did not know this, and this is not like some hokey person or whatever. This is like a standard thing.
Rick Costa:I remember hearing like they try to keep it fifth or sixth grade level.
Carmen Lezeth:Look, I did a test because I was so freaked out by this I was like, maybe I only read on the so I did a test online. No, I did. I wanted to do a test online. Hold on a second. Oh, cynthia. Okay, cynthia's letting us know what's going on, so let me just give you guys the update. He is okay, the surgery went well and he is recovering, but we'll be in the hospital for a bit. Okay, I'm just going to send her a little heart emoji because she knows we're online right now. So if all of you can keep her in your prayers or if you're not a religious person, you don't pray, you just keep her in your thoughts. Let's give good thoughts to her family.
Carmen Lezeth:Anything that is kind of out of the norm. My friend, johnny Torres, died right before Thanksgiving. I think you knew that, rick, because you saw it on my Facebook page. He was one of my castmates very young, and it kind of threw me for a bit. It threw me for a bit and I don't want to be that person that when someone passes away, that's when we get it together or whatever, but it really made me. Take a moment and try to just be grateful in this, where we're at. Where we're at, yeah, so we can keep him in your thoughts, and also my friend Johnny Torres, his family, who is dealing with a lot during this holiday season, and it was unexpected.
Rick Costa:It was. It always sucks worse when it's near holiday, really you know what?
Carmen Lezeth:I think? You're absolutely right. I think it's never an okay time to have someone die young like an unexpected.
Rick Costa:But it does make it a little bit harder during the holiday season, especially when it's unexpected, you know because I've talked to so many people that you know the dear loved one died like before, on or right after Christmas. And they're like now when I think of you. Know Christmas was always joyful but by now it's a sad thing and I'm like thanks.
Carmen Lezeth:I think it's a process. Somebody asked me how do you get through loss? Because people think that because I lost my mother at such a young age that I would have some, and I totally get that I would have some idea. And the truth is you don't ever get over it. Like you don't. And I understand what time heals all wounds was meant to say, but it's not actually true. Time doesn't heal the wound, it just makes you look at it from a different perspective. You know what I mean. Like you can find different ways to deal with it as you grow older.
Carmen Lezeth:But I hate to admit it, but I was 11 and a half, so it's been a very long time. And you know what. Her birthday still hits me hard Mother's Day. The irony of ironies Mother's Day doesn't hit me as hard, but Father's Day does. I've never had a father. Yeah, I don't know why. It's just I start thinking about my mom or whatever, and how alone she was and she was like the mother and the father. I go down that rabbit hole, you know. So, yeah, interesting.
Rick Costa:Anyways, I don't want't know what would you do if, all of a sudden, you got an email saying carmen, this is your father oh, that's an interesting call, rick.
Carmen Lezeth:We did not have that on our outline, for actually I've thought about this a lot. Um, I don't think I had an email. I would just think it was fraud. So let's just say I got a certified letter from a lawyer saying that they were like those dna things.
Carmen Lezeth:They can write you through there and then I have all, I've done all the dna stuff on ancestry and 23 and me. So it hasn't happened yet, but I've thought about it. But let's just say I got something official from a law office and okay, so I, so I can answer this question, I I always dream about that I would get it from one of maybe his other children, because I assume he has other children. You know what I mean For people who may not know. I don't know anything about my father.
Carmen Lezeth:My mother said that she would tell me when I was 16, but she died when I was 11 and a half. So you know there's that and she didn't tell anybody. So I think it was maybe like a one night stand or something. So I always you know, which is fine, more power to your mom. I got to think about it in the positive way, I think. If so, there's a few things. First of all, I think, age-wise, he would be in his 90s Right now. He'd be in his 90s so he could be alive, but I always think that he's probably passed away. That makes me feel better that he's passed away. I don't know, and I always think that I would probably get a letter from one of his other children. But let's say it was him. Let's say he wasn't his mother, what that? Let's say it was him, let's say he wasn't what?
Rick Costa:That could still happen.
Carmen Lezeth:It could still happen, I think I'd be okay with it. I don't blame him for anything. I honestly don't think he knew in my. I mean, even if he did know, I know enough about my mom that she, if he did know, she probably didn't want him involved.
Rick Costa:But my gut says he probably didn't even know I've seen a lot of shows where there's like whole shows about being people together that didn't know they were family and almost all of them they said you know, they're like we had no idea.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, I wouldn't be angry. I'm not angry about it. I feel bad that I didn't get to meet him or know him, maybe when I was younger or when he was younger or whatever. But I would love to get to know his other children and maybe learn more about him through that. And I think I told you this before when I did my ancestry stuff, because I never knew the other half of me. I am Portuguese, that's the other half.
Carmen Lezeth:My father was Portuguese and Spaniard, but mostly Portuguese. It would be interesting to find out what he did for a living, who he was, how did he meet my mom? So one of the things that was really cool was so, my mom has other children that I don't talk about in the book because I don't hate them or whatever. So they would be my half sisters and brothers, but we don't talk about in the book because I don't hate them or whatever. So they would be my half sisters and brothers, but we don't talk, we don't have a relationship. But what's really cool is that I've spoken to one of their fathers, because there's three. There's three men and children from those three men.
Carmen Lezeth:Okay, my mom clearly had fun. Okay, I don't know, know, I always want to look at it as from a place of joy. You know what I mean. But he is a lovely man. He's still alive today. He's 94, 95, and we were able to talk and and I'm still a little bit in touch with him in a weird way, and he talked about my mom and it was so cool, like how he met her, her, he was in a band, he was a trumpet player and she came into the club. I'm like my mother was in a club. It was so cool because I don't have that memory, and he talked about how beautiful she was, and so I think that's what I would love to hear.
Rick Costa:His ethnicity. I couldn't say that word.
Carmen Lezeth:His ethnicity.
Rick Costa:Who yeah this father, this other father person?
Carmen Lezeth:He's Latino, but also Black, yeah, so my mother's other children are also Latino, but they're from Honduras and Mr Everett that's his name. Mr Everett is a beautiful man. He reminds me of James Earl Jones. He does, totally does, and he's a lovely man.
Carmen Lezeth:And I had met him when I was really young, after my mom passed away, and I don't know if he came to the funeral, but I don't know why I met him. But I did meet him when I was really young but I rejected him. I was cause I was bold and angry and mad at everybody you know, and I was like you're not my father, I'm not going to talk to you. And I was like you're not my father, I'm not going to talk to you, but he's a lovely man and I think the way he spoke about my mom and his whole energy is so beautiful and I would suspect that's the kind of father my biological father would be like a good human being. It just didn't work out, or it was a one night stand or it was whatever it was, but I don't know. Is that weird to you? Do you think I'd be angry when you ask that question?
CBS Sunday Morning:No, Some people say I just don't want to know Really.
Rick Costa:Oh yeah, I guess they're just harboring resentment because they assume, oh, you abandoned me, which again, like you just said, you don't know what happened.
Carmen Lezeth:Oh, you know it's so funny. I've never felt abandoned. I have. I've always felt wanted Is that weird to say that? I've always felt wanted and loved, and even after my mother died I think that was the crucial part was that all these other people stepped in and helped make sure I didn't fall through the cracks and I was like I was always, and I think that's what angers me about how we treat children today, and what I mean by that is how parents treat children today.
Carmen Lezeth:When I was growing up and maybe I'm wrong, you can tell me from your perspective I felt that I wasn't just my mother's child, I was everyone's child in the neighborhood and I think every like you had people and I'm not saying this was a good thing, but you had people watching over all the kids in the neighborhood. Whether they were the parents, it didn't matter. They would be like totally saying something if you were doing something wrong, whether or not they were related to you or not. And at the end of forbes street there was this like conclave of windows and we used to call them abc, nbc and cbs, because those are the local channels back in the day, but people always knew everything that was going on in the hood, they would be calling you out as a teenager or whatever if you were doing something. So I feel like we've lost a lot of that, and I think I gave you the example.
Carmen Lezeth:When I was in school and I got in trouble or whatever with the teacher, there was no way in hell. I thought my mom, or whoever was taking care of me at the time, was going to come up and defend me. I knew that if they found out I was in trouble but that's not how it is now Kids know that their parents will come up and defend me. I knew that if they found out I was in trouble but that's not how it is.
Rick Costa:Now kids know that their parents will come up and defend them against the teachers yeah, yeah in my day, like if I was at somebody else's house, whatever, and we just said wrong and they called whatever, beat them, and when they get home let them know they're gonna get beat again exactly, it was a kind of and I'm not and I'm not into corporal punishment or whatever, but you do like there was just a different vibe, but I and I think we've lost a lot of that.
Carmen Lezeth:We've lost a lot of that kind of your kids are my kids, my responsibility as well, like I need to make sure they're okay. And it scares me a little bit because I I I think the reason why I am the person I am today you read my book is because so many people stepped up and were like we got you, your mother's not here, we're going to walk in. That's not what they said, but it's what you did. That's what you did and I don't know if people would do that today.
Rick Costa:That's a good question.
Carmen Lezeth:I saw on a TikTok or something, some kid was in a grocery store I don't know if you saw this and they were totally like taking. They were taking milk and throwing it on the ground and they were taking.
Carmen Lezeth:Oh, yeah, little girl Did you see that the little girl, well, yeah, and she was just throwing stuff everywhere and she was having like a temper tantrum, whatever, and people were trying to help her or yell at her or whatever, but she was just blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever. And come to find out she's nonverbal. She clearly has maybe some I shouldn't say clearly but she has some autistic whatever. But the weird thing is that you could see that so many people were mean to her, whereas I think when I was growing up, if that happened in my hood, I would have been slammed to the ground by some to control me, to put me down. And I'm not saying people should do that, I'm not trying to be violent, but I'm just saying there was an ownership to all children, like what was in the best interest, but people let that child keep doing what they were doing for 45 minutes, did you see it? Until the parents showed up.
Rick Costa:I didn't know it was 45 minutes.
Carmen Lezeth:But yeah, it was 45 minutes, wow, and she could have heard herself or somebody else. Hey, tony, how you doing? Does Tony want to come up?
Rick Costa:He may not want to In my Facebook memories. I just saw a video of it. It was you, me and Tony, and it was. I can't remember what you're talking about. It was something funny.
Carmen Lezeth:But Tony was like very animated that day and very made his point come across. It was really, it was funny. Wait, was it a bad thing? No, not at all. Hey, tony, you want to come up? Oh, I guess I didn't realize we're past the hour mark already. Oh, yeah can you stay on for a little bit longer? It won't let me post them through here. Oh, it did. Oh it went on twitch that's where he was initially I only got rick's notification. Carmen, where are your notifications?
Rick Costa:ma'am, I don't know what you're talking about restreams, having issues, everything for the last three days on. So I always set up a thumbnail. I take a new picture of myself every time. I put the date, I put the song I'm going to sing, I put the scripture thought reference that right and I post it to Restream and it sends it to all the different platforms. Okay, Well on YouTube.
Rick Costa:It's just showing me a generic picture that I have on YouTube, which is just clouds. I'm like wait, what's this? This is not the thumbnail. It's been doing it like three times now. I got to ask them about that.
Carmen Lezeth:No, I'm confused.
Rick Costa:No, I'm confused, oh yeah.
Carmen Lezeth:It's letting me. Yeah, so Restream is having issues. It's not me. If it's me, I'm always okay admitting it's me. I don't have any problem admitting that it's me. Can I put my hair up? Oh my God, look at all the gray.
Rick Costa:Oh my God, it's not that noticeable though from you know we're far away.
Carmen Lezeth:You know what? I'm going to deal with it. I'm trying to go through it, I'm trying to just, oh my God, did you send it to?
Rick Costa:him yeah, so Twitter. I for some reason, when I put this to go to Twitter, it never shows up. So I've been talking to Twitter, so I put choose your channels and if I choose Twitter, it doesn't go to Twitter. So I've been talking to Twitter back and forth and they're like yeah, we don't see any problems, so talk to restream. So I still haven't done that yet, but I'm like I still think it's Twitter but I think it's.
Carmen Lezeth:but it's not Twitter anymore, it's X, isn't?
Rick Costa:it Whatever, still call it Twitter, hey how you doing.
Tony D,:What is going on with your notifications, ma'am?
Carmen Lezeth:No, it's not just me. So Restream. Earlier today, when I tried to set it up, restream sent out a notification that they weren't doing you couldn't schedule a thing, and so they said it would be best if you just go on and go live right away. We just had to do it, so it still wasn't working, because I tried right before to do like a notification thing, so it just didn't work.
Tony D,:So not so much with the notifications but the channels, because it used to be on both of your channels when they would come up. I would see Rick's notifications that he was on, I would see yours on the multiple platforms. All I see is his. Your Facebook isn't on. Your Twitch isn't on.
Jane Fonda:Really.
Tony D,:Yeah, his YouTube is the only one I see your YouTube isn't on Really. Yeah, his YouTube is the only one I see your YouTube isn't even kicking off?
Carmen Lezeth:Is my Facebook not on really?
Tony D,:No, it's not Anthony.
Carmen Lezeth:Oh, that's sad. I don't even know what to say about it.
Tony D,:That's why, when I come in and I do oh yeah it's not on Facebook. Yeah, when I put the comment on all the platforms I don't know what on LinkedIn, I do see that.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, I'm not on Facebook. I don't know why. I don't know. They told me. You know, it's fine, I will complain to them, as I always do.
Tony D,:Just share the link.
Carmen Lezeth:They'll get another credit. Yeah, I don't know why I'm not on Facebook.
Tony D,:That's too bad you know what's funny it says I'm on Facebook right here.
Carmen Lezeth:It says I to connect. Let me see. The content isn't available right now. Go to newsfeed. Let's see. Yeah, it's not letting me. Oh, it's so weird. Can I just say thank you for all you people who are listening anyways, even though we're not on. So we're on YouTube, on my channel, we're on LinkedIn and we're on TikTok Not TikTok, we're on Twitch.
Tony D,:You said TikTok, I'd just be down.
Carmen Lezeth:No, we're on Twitch. It's trying to send to Facebook right now. Yeah, too late, bitch Too late.
Tony D,:Okay, I'm sorry, your Twitch is on.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, Twitch is on, but Facebook isn't. Yeah, it's trying to send data to. I can see that it's sending data as I'm looking at it, but whatever.
Rick Costa:It's actually happened to me twice in the last two weeks where people said you're not on Facebook. I'm like what do you mean? I set it up to go to Facebook.
Tony D,:Because, carmen, your YouTube isn't on right now. Rixis.
Carmen Lezeth:My YouTube isn't on right now.
Tony D,:Rick's is my YouTube isn't on. No, it's not. This is why when I drop those comments, so you see which platform is working, yeah.
Carmen Lezeth:Okay, good, I'm going to get a credit. I'm sick of reaching in a lot of ways, but they're very nice to me now, so they give me credit all the time.
Tony D,:So Rick's LinkedIn is on your LinkedIn is on. Both of your Twitches are on His. Youtube is on.
Carmen Lezeth:My YouTube is not on. No, that's terrible. I'm going to have to upload it. It takes like hours.
Rick Costa:I'll do it. Yeah, Last one, it says two weeks ago for you for YouTube.
Carmen Lezeth:Tony, how are you? How was your Thanksgiving?
Tony D,:Thanksgiving was phenomenal, honestly, and your birthday. Thank you for my birthday.
Carmen Lezeth:And your birthday, happy birthday. You want me to sing? Happy birthday, go ahead.
Tony D,:Happy birthday, oh no, you want me to do Stevie Wonder one Sing your version. Sing your version I don't have a version. Look at you, she got all humble. I don't have a version.
Carmen Lezeth:Look at her. We like the Stevie Wonder version better.
Tony D,:You know what I mean.
Carmen Lezeth:But everybody can't relate and I can't sing it because I have a horrible voice, but I sing the regular Happy Birthday. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, dear Tony. Happy birthday to you, thank you. Happy birthday to you, thank you.
Rick Costa:Happy birthday to you.
Carmen Lezeth:Okay, wait, whoa, with the loud echo in the background. Okay, sing it. Go ahead, sing the whole thing. Why'd you get shot? Sing the whole thing.
Tony D,:He sings every day. He's fine, he sings every day.
Carmen Lezeth:Happy birthday to you. I can't do that without the music. I can't do that without the music. I can't do it without the music. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. So you had a blessed and wonderful birthday and you had a wonderful Thanksgiving. Everyone in your family's fine. And what'd you do for Thanksgiving? Did you go home?
Tony D,:First off, my birthday. I actually went to work that morning, came home, took a nap, went out to eat, went to Ruby Tuesdays Everybody knows I love Ruby Tuesdays. I said I'm going to hand me a drink. I went in there and it was just me. I normally take Jason with me. Lady said you by yourself? I said yes, it's my birthday. I came to get a drink. She said oh really, the bartender. I've been up there so much. She said listen, I'm going to pay for your drink. Another couple comes in. It's this lady's birthday. She had just turned 75, so we all cheered each other. It was cool. That was cool Thanksgiving. I had my son for the week and my ex-wife was like she was going to go to her dad's side and she said they asked me if you wanted to come. I said, sure I'll. I didn't know if they wanted me there and it was like you better be here, okay. So I took Jason over there. Let me tell y'all about the spread.
Carmen Lezeth:Food Go ahead. Talk, Tell me about the food Go ahead.
Tony D,:Ladies and gentlemen, all about the joyous around the world Turkey Ham. Gentlemen, all about the joyas around the world Turkey ham chicken. Not your regular rotisserie chicken. This was a different type of Thanksgiving holiday season Wow, pork loin which I didn't even know was cooked so well, potato salad, greens, deviled eggs. Then I had a chocolate bun cake. Then I went for my second plate of the same thing.
Carmen Lezeth:Wow Okay good.
Tony D,:Beauty for the drink. Everybody was like how you been? What's been going on? I hear you over there, Anthony, Don't get me started on you. Appreciate it. How's everybody going?
Carmen Lezeth:How you doing.
Tony D,:Everybody. They talked to me how you doing. I was talking to everybody. They talked to me. They was like how you been, what's going on? How you doing? I was like, oh wow, I was surprised. In-laws after the divorce, they didn't always like that, but they was all like, yes, Nice, I said you are more than welcome to be here.
Carmen Lezeth:Yes, good.
Tony D,:And you better come back next year.
Carmen Lezeth:Nice.
Tony D,:And Jason got around with his cousins and hang out with his uncles and they know me, I eat. The first time I ever went over there they had all that food. I only had one plate and sat down. They said would you like another? I said I better not, because I'm a little greedy. They said you need to eat. I said I'm telling you right now I give people warning I eat, I eat. And they was like you sure. I said I can have another plate. And it was the same spread. This was 15 years ago, it's the same spread. So I had a second plate. They're like you full. I'm like I'm fine.
Carmen Lezeth:I know I'm something more than you normally get up and have thirds right.
Tony D,:I was being humble. I'm like I'm fine, I'm fine. And the man at the house, he he was like let me tell you something. When you come over here for the first 20 minutes, you're a guest, and that was 15 minutes ago and he gave me a glass of wine. He said you want something to drink? I said man, don't do this. I said I'll see your food. I will take all these leftovers, do not do this. He was like we got plenty. I said there's 30 people in this house. I'm like got plenty. I wouldn't have got a third plate.
Carmen Lezeth:See, I think that's how Thanksgiving should be. That's beautiful.
Tony D,:It should be, but I'm always courteous because I look at how many people are there and how much food. Normally, if you've got one in six, seven people, you need your leftovers for the week, so nobody has to cook in here the microwave. That's just me being courteous, because I will eat four or five of them, plates like I'm in Golden Corral. Golden Corral, it was buffet style. I will get busy. I will put a paper towel right here.
Carmen Lezeth:Okay, I have a controversial question Go. Do you like stuffing or dressing? Do you know the difference?
Tony D,:Both.
Carmen Lezeth:Stuffing is if it's in the bird and dressing if it's outside the bird.
Tony D,:If it's prepared properly, I don't care, I'm going to eat it.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, I like. For some reason I really love cranberry sauce with my stuffing? I don't know what that's about.
Tony D,:I'm not a cranberry sauce person.
Carmen Lezeth:Here's the thing I don't eat cranberry. If we went out to dinner and we were like I wouldn't want it, but for some reason at Thanksgiving I need cranberry sauce with my stuffing. I don't know what that's about.
Tony D,:It's tradition, that's tradition. That's what that is. It's so good. It's so good, it's tradition. I'm going to be controversial on my damn self okay, wait, what did Rick just say?
Carmen Lezeth:I got confused.
Tony D,:What happened? You're allergic.
Rick Costa:Cranberries yeah, I'm allergic Really.
Tony D,:Found out. Yeah, Let me take controversial myself.
Carmen Lezeth:Okay. No, please don't Okay. What Not politics?
Tony D,:Carmen Lizette Suarez. Okay, he said the whole name. It is okay to have gray in your hair, okay.
Carmen Lezeth:You know what I know. That is, I know I appreciate it. That's your controversy.
Tony D,:I know Well, and you yes.
Carmen Lezeth:Here's the thing. Here's the thing I know it is. That's why I'm trying to get through it. Oh my god, I can't. I'm trying to. Just I'm look at, I've been dying my hair for so long. I'm tired of it. You know what I mean. So I'm. That's why I did what I did with my hair. So it's all. You see all the highlights, whatever. So we can. Then we're working.
Carmen Lezeth:I'm working with michael bache. Gotta give him a shout out, because he was so kind and nice and I think he's the first egyptian person I've ever met. He's egyptian, right, I know. I was like, because somebody walked by and he started speaking some language that I have never heard before. I was like what are you speaking? I said it. Like what attitude? He was like I'm egyptian. I was like, oh, I had no idea. But anyway, michael Boucher, shout out to him.
Carmen Lezeth:It's a great hair salon here in Venice, california. But he's looking. I know it's going to be hard for you. He's like just work with it, let it go. He's like you do not need to come see me again, just let it go through. But if you really can't handle it, he gave me and this is not this, he is high end hair salon person. Okay, and I never go there. I was buying my L'Oreal at the store like the regular color. You guys don't know Cause you're men, but I was just buying stuff at the store like $7 and doing it myself. And he, when I first met with him at the free consultation, he was like and doing it myself. And he, when I first met with him at the free consultation, he was like you know, your hair is not black, right? He's like so I don't know why you're using this color. I'm like I'm just doing it in the roots, but it's the wrong color. So he was like so disappointed in me. I was like you don't even know me. Why are you so disappointed?
Tony D,:He's on your case. He knows what he's doing.
Carmen Lezeth:He was mean, mean. He was like your hair is not black anyway. He went in we did it. This actually is my hair color minus the highlights, and so it's like a light brown. He did all the highlights and then he gave me actual good color. So it's not from the store, these two huge bottles, and he didn't charge me for them like a hundred dollars each. He's like just do them one-to-one. He's like if you can't stand the gray, he's. The difference is is they don't color it, they just mask it and then they come out yes, water, so it's not damaging your hair, he's, because that's part of the problem is you're damaging your hair. Exactly, color. But you know what? I haven't used it. I'm not using it, I'm trying to just let he, because he was saying if you can just let it gray and then we'll keep doing the streaks. You know what it is. I think you missed it earlier. I just want it all gray already or all one color. You know what I mean? I don't want this weird.
Tony D,:I want to show the time of your age and your growth coming out. It's like us when we go bald, you're supposed to let it, but I just started cutting it all off. I really did.
Carmen Lezeth:But aren't you arguing in my favor then? Sometimes, Because you're saying you cut it all off as opposed to let it little by little. That's what I'm saying. I wish it was all. Okay, let me ask you this question. I already know your answer. I was going to guess, because he said if you cut all your hair off, then we could do the gray. If you did like a short cut, okay, all right, never mind. All right, never mind, okay.
Rick Costa:I think you talked about the hair length thing before.
Carmen Lezeth:I just needed one. All I needed was one person to say you know what? I think that would look cute. Nobody.
Tony D,:Until you are cast in Black Panther 3, no.
Carmen Lezeth:I wasn't't gonna go bald. What kind of you are in black panther three? Okay, all right, yeah, all I. I swear to god, if one person was like you know what I think that might be cute.
Tony D,:That's all you want, that's all you need. You're gonna be like the nemo and jim and told these boys they're gonna listen to me, but but not one person.
Carmen Lezeth:So, yeah, no, you're right, I'm just. I hate how vain I am. I will say that I never thought I was this vain, but I hate that. Why is he acting like that? Rick, defend me.
Rick Costa:Nobody wants to look. Where did you come from?
Carmen Lezeth:Why are you being mean, oh my God, why are you being mean, oh my God, why are you being mean to me? I am not. You think I'm vain. No, you said it. I know, but you're agreeing to it by acting like that I didn't agree to it.
Tony D,:I'm shocked.
Carmen Lezeth:I do. I think I'm vain because I got so upset about my gray hair, Like so much so that I went and found a person to do my hair that I went and found a person to do my hair. I don't go to the. There are certain things I don't spend money on, and then you call me bougie, Spending five $600 every six weeks on your hair. That's not me 100%. But you do know that's what women do.
Tony D,:Women with money.
Carmen Lezeth:It's not even women with money. He said to me he's Carmen, just do what I'm telling you to do. You can come in every like half year or whatever, and I'll redo the, I'll redo the highlights and it'll be like 125. He's I don't need and he's you don't need to come to me. You can come to one of my other people because he's like that's his salon, so he's more money, whatever he's. People come here every three weeks and they spend five, six hundred dollars to get this done what's crazy is he's helping you, take care of you, instead of just doing what you want.
Carmen Lezeth:You can't beat that no, he's a good guy. That's why I keep saying his name michael boucher, and I'm not saying his name. Right, michael, it's. It's egyptian, so the way it's spelt is weird too, but he says everyone calls me michael it's like or something I'm sorry and I, rick, how are you doing? Hey Rick, how are? You doing I'm good, we can just get rid of Rick. He'll just be being you.
Tony D,:Tony, we've been here since day one. You can't do that, it's against the rules.
Carmen Lezeth:No, no, no, I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding what else?
Tony D,:Yeah, I saw you when your I was in and out on it. You can do that, that's fine. Just so you know, you don't always have to ponytail it or the bun up top, you just let it flow back. It's actually cool.
Carmen Lezeth:No, I don't, it's just because I'm hot right now. So Anthony just said as long as I'm all set and head and shoulders by shampoo, I'm okay.
Tony D,:I used to use Selsun Blue. I got you?
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, I mean, but this is a lot of hair, this is a lot of stuff happening here, so it's so funny. Can I tell you, my hair was not always like this and, tony, you might appreciate this. When I was growing up, as most black women did, we had to straighten our hair all the time. All the time we had rollers or we did the hot comb or oh my God. So we always had straight hair and I came out to Los Angeles after college.
Tony D,:Fix this part right here. We're not going to let you do this. Fix this part. No, there you go.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, there you go, come on, don't worry about what I look like. And then, when I came out here after college, I shaved off all my hair. I went to a barber, shaved off all my hair and stopped smoking. It's the best thing I ever did, because then my hair came in like this that is one of the hardest habits I ever had to break. Smoking you smoked, I used to smoke. Yeah, no cigarettes, I smoked cigarettes. I didn't smoke pot.
Tony D,:I never smoked pot Me, neither Really. That's why I can remember shit.
Carmen Lezeth:Rick, you smoke pot Easy, Easy, easy with incense.
Tony D,:That's why I can remember shit. I'm on everybody. Rick, you smoke pot. Easy, easy, easy, easy with incense, easy I have to ask these questions. I don't want to assume anything, you don't have to answer.
Rick Costa:That's part of the book Never been high, never been drunk.
Carmen Lezeth:Well, I see there are things we need to do when we meet in person. Okay cool in person. Okay cool, we'll be like this is just water, have some rick, trust me, yeah. So I I shaved off and then my hair came in like this and I was so angry because now we have product to work with it. You know what I mean. We do, we have products that matter. But I was like, wow, we really.
Carmen Lezeth:I used to go to sleep with a head full of rollers in my head oh my God, doing that to a kid is horrible, but that's what you did back in the day.
Tony D,:That's what the women did back then with the little girls, the mothers and the daughters. They all got their hairstyle together and it was bonding time for the women.
Carmen Lezeth:Oh no, absolutely. There's no doubt about it.
Tony D,:Women would go to the barbershop and the women would do each other's hair, and that was the weekend, okay, but it was also let's just be honest the reason why you couldn't have your natural hair.
Carmen Lezeth:You had to have your hair straight because that was the appropriate way to be as quote unquote white as possible. It's just the truth. I'm not trying to make this political, but you couldn't have natural hair and get a job or go to school or whatever. You had to hear, if you're here, straight as possible. And I used to put a towel on my head. I remember I used to put a towel on my head. Then we would be like make it pretend we were share. Yeah, because that was the beauty standard. Right, that was the beauty standard, was?
Tony D,:to have the long hair.
Carmen Lezeth:I was straight so things have changed. But yeah, so that's what happened when I came out here. So I do love my hair, but I don't love the gray, if I may. Yeah.
Tony D,:Today is my oldest son's birthday. He turned 24. Thank you, God. Happy birthday.
Carmen Lezeth:What's his name?
Tony D,:The same as mine.
Carmen Lezeth:Tony, you want me to sing happy birthday to him too.
Tony D,:Tony Jr, he's the third.
Carmen Lezeth:He's the third, your father's the first.
Tony D,:My father was the first, I'm the junior, he's the third.
Carmen Lezeth:So he's 24. Wait, how many kids do you have? I'm so confused. Three.
Tony D,:You'll be forgetting Three.
Carmen Lezeth:Two biological and a stepdaughter. Two biological and a stepdaughter biological and a stepdaughter.
Tony D,:She's still thinking.
Carmen Lezeth:I didn't know you had a son who was older.
Tony D,:I told you, I know.
Carmen Lezeth:I didn't where Florida was it.
Rick Costa:Where'd he go? Florida?
Carmen Lezeth:trying to be all like. He knows you and he remembers everything, whatever trying to make me look bad. Bye, everybody. It was great to have you all here today and something to do with airlines or something.
Rick Costa:Am I remembering what?
Tony D,:do you mean airlines? What was he me working on planes?
Carmen Lezeth:no, not that kind of thing. What does he do?
Tony D,:he graduated in film production. He's just trying to stay in the industry because it's tough.
Carmen Lezeth:It's a tough industry right now.
Tony D,:It's very tough and I talk to him about it a lot, so he's working where he can.
Carmen Lezeth:Where does he live?
Tony D,:Florida.
Carmen Lezeth:Oh yeah, I can't help him.
Tony D,:I know, I know people down there, but the industry's screwed. I know people in a couple of places. They're like it's so messed up.
Carmen Lezeth:My brother lives in Florida, but I don't know anybody in the industry to help him in. Florida, because that's not really a hub of Hollywood. You know what I mean. It's not really Atlanta would be great Atlanta would be great. Atlanta is good. Atlanta is tough the industry in general is tough, but I'm just saying connection-wise. I know more people in Atlanta or Hollywood, but not Florida. Florida is not like a place that I would even think of as filming. It is, but it's more Walt Disney, it's more.
Tony D,:Disney. What I have noticed is a lot of them are going to New Zealand and Canada. A lot of movies are produced there. I'm hearing that a lot. I do know 50 opened up a studio in Louisiana. Cat Williams just opened up a studio in Alabama.
Carmen Lezeth:Cat Williams on fire. Let me just tell you Cat Williams on fire. Wait, tony, did you even listen to? I know this is a stupid question, oh, go ahead Kendrick Lamar's new album.
Tony D,:I listened to the the EP last week and let me go ahead and say I think TV Off is going to be the best one off of those songs. Even though lyrically he was phenomenal, you should never let him sing. I'll show you a post.
Carmen Lezeth:I love Luther, though I love that song Luther, and also Dodger Blue I love.
Tony D,:TV Off is going to be the one in my opinion.
Carmen Lezeth:It's good.
Tony D,:TV Off hit because when the other three songs came out earlier this year was Euphoria. They Not Like Us. And Meet the Grams. That's a whole other album. That's a whole other album.
Tony D,:I'm just saying, but for his career, euphoria had me with the intro. He started off with that Teddy Pendergrass. He said I said that's over. I said that's over. I said that's it, that's it. I can't even mess with him. They're not like us. Y'all can have that. But Meet the Grounds was one of the most savage diss songs I've ever heard in my life.
Carmen Lezeth:But you heard Luther right With Luther Vandross, that's it. Okay, I'm just saying Because I think that one better than Teddy Pendergrass, one Florida's all Disney and independent, exactly Anthony, that's what I'm saying it's not really the hub of Hollywood stuffage.
Tony D,:The hub of Hollywood. No but Hollywood studios in Orlando and Universal Studios.
Carmen Lezeth:Still Disney.
Tony D,:I got you, I got you, I got you. And Disney is the main conglomerate right now as well.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, Okay. So yeah, I just think Kendrick Lamar is amazing and people were trying to get tickets and it was just so funny because he had work Listen that concert.
Tony D,:He had the what that concert he had earlier this year, when everybody came on stage, that was mind-blowing.
Carmen Lezeth:He's amazing. I just think he's amazing. Do you know that Rick didn't even flinch when the first like everyone who I have shown or had listened to the Luther song, they were like, because that little lick right there, that little beginning where he samples Luther, I think it's very telling. You're not really Gen X?
Tony D,:The new hip hop. Rick doesn't really deal with it. He knows some of the old stuff.
Carmen Lezeth:The Luther part is amazing she likes Luther.
Tony D,:Ladies and gentlemen, just so you know.
Carmen Lezeth:I'm just saying that moment that when you hear this world is mine, that's crazy. Come on, no one heard that. That was just brilliantly.
Tony D,:I feel the same way about Euphoria. Okay, I want to.
Carmen Lezeth:Okay, rick is I'm going to get off the show? Okay, have you guys seen Wicked?
Tony D,:I did see Moana 2. I took Jason to see that. Good kid movie, very good kid movie. I would recommend that for a lot of parents. I think there are some subliminals. I wouldn't necessarily call them concerning, but I did catch a couple of things with that movie, the same way I did with, and I want to, if you don't mind.
Carmen Lezeth:Is this Moana? He's talking about Moana too.
Tony D,:Moana too, it's pretty good. Any parent that has not seen the movie Ron Goes Wrong came out a few years ago, watch that movie with your children. That was a good movie for parenting, for kids and the dangers of not only devices but social media Outstanding movie for those topics. What else, what else, what else? I took them to see.
Carmen Lezeth:But wait. So, rick, did you? You hadn't saw gladiator. You want to give us your overall.
Rick Costa:I know what you thought of gladiator, but yeah my brother wanted to see that because they'd seen the first one I hadn't seen. I've seen it. I saw a little bit of the first one, but I, we watched the first one. But the thing that's crazy is they're the same story. It's just the son and then the father and did the same thing. It kept showing the same things. Look, he's grabbing the sand. Oh, that's what his father did too, and it was just so much of the same. I'm like y'all realize this is almost the same movie. That's what they wanted. Kind of weird, not saying it was bad, and of course Denzel killed it. He killed it, did he really.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, if you haven't seen it, yeah, denzel is amazing in it. But I was shook. But I told Rick when he said he was going to go see it I'm like you should go see Wicked, don't go see it. I did because I knew it wasn't going to be. I had already seen it. But it was okay, it was fine. But but you wouldn't go see it again. There's no need. There's no need. I do recommend everyone to go see Wicked. I think I've convinced Rick to go see Wicked, right.
Rick Costa:I've seen some videos talking about it and I feel like now I have seen it because I've seen some people talking about it. But yeah, it looks interesting.
Carmen Lezeth:No, you have to go see it, but I sent you a compilation that kind of gave you a connection. I don't think people know. I saw it on Broadway twice and I saw it in the theater here in Los Angeles and people don't understand that Wicked is. Let me just put it this way the Wizard of Oz was created in 1900 by a man named EL Braun I forget what his full name is, but it's EL Braun Okay, in 1990, so we all know the story of the Wizard of Oz, right? Dorothy, toto, walking Yellow Brick Road, wizard, bad guy, we realize, and then he's not really who he says he is. Blah, blah, blah. The story of Wicked, which people don't understand, is about the Wicked Witch of the West. When Dorothy throws the water on the witch and she melts or whatever, that's when the story starts. So they go back and they give you all the information about the backstory, of how the Wicked Witch of the West, whose name is Elphaba, oh, wow Give you a little information.
Carmen Lezeth:Her name is Elphaba. Oh wow, give you a little information. Her name is Elphaba. The reason why her name is Elphaba is because the author who wrote the book in 1995. So think about it the Wizard of Oz was created in 1900.
Carmen Lezeth:And then, in 1995, a man whose name I can't remember off the top of my head turned around and said you know what? I want to write a backstory to the green witch. So he turned around in order to honor EL Braun email. He made Elphaba, elb, elphaba, elphaba that's her name the wicked witch of the west. But he created an entire backstory to, and when you watch the backstory, it's incredible because you find out where the lion comes from, the cowardly lion. You find out where the tin man comes from, you find out where comes from, and it's just a to me.
Carmen Lezeth:Even if you don't like musicals, the thing that's amazing about this movie to me is the artistry, the creativity in someone who read a book and said you know what? I want to write the backstory to some random character that had no full background to it and see how it goes. How it goes. And he wrote this entire background that connects the wizard of oz to this moment in time when the wicked witch of the west is, has water thrown on her and dies. So it's a great art piece at the very least, even and even if you don't like musicals, it's not that kind of musical. It's really well done.
Rick Costa:I'm just saying you guys should really see it, yeah fun little fact I found out was so they they had to stick with the wicked. They had to stick with a book and not really the original movie because the copyright stuff. So that's why the there's not ruby red slippers. They made it silver because the movie made it ruby, but in the book it's silver. I was like, oh, that's interesting, gotcha.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, there was, I think. I think there were some things that you have to make choices on as a film director. You have to fight the right battles or whatever, but it is when he wrote. I don't think that when he wrote the book he thought it was going to be as great as it was. Oh, I doubt it. You, he wrote the book. He thought it was going to be as great as it was. Oh, I doubt it. You know what I mean. Like he was just like I'm going to write this book, and so he had to be careful as to what he took as verbatim. You know what I mean. So I think that was part of it too, but it is fascinating. And here's the other thing I'll say and look, I'm a big fan of art in the commercial sense, not art in the foo sense, I remember.
Carmen Lezeth:I'm sorry, tony, let me translate in the bougie sense right, I said foo foo because I remember going as a kid to the art museum in Boston and there was this canvas, this big white canvas, huge ceiling to floor, and there was a blue line painted across it just the blue line and it was like worth millions of dollars and I was like are you out of your mind? I was like floored. I'm not into abstract art, but I'm into like art that is like commercial for regular people that we understand. And this is one of those movies. You sit through it and you understand this backstory and how it happened and how they connected and you're like, wow, it's so well done.
Carmen Lezeth:Anthony just said I'm sure I'll get wicked when it comes out on DVD, blu-ray, digital. That's how I watch most movies. I think that's fine too. I'm not a big fan of oh, you must go to the movie theaters. This was beautiful to watch in the movie theater and it was really wonderful to be around with a lot of people, because you do a lot of gasping in it, you do a lot of oh my, you get really excited and a lot of people know the theater. Like we all know the music, we all know the, you know some people are singing, so there's that social con. It's kind of the difference between going to a baseball game or watching it on tv. Big difference you know what I mean?
Tony D,:Okay Singing.
Carmen Lezeth:Most of it, 80% of it, 80% of it, I would say, yeah, it's a musical. It's a musical. It's well done, though, okay. So it's an hour and 40 minutes, and as much as I love hanging with you guys, my problem unless? You guys, it's past your normal time, it's not even that I got to edit this shit.
Rick Costa:I'm like dang, I know.
Carmen Lezeth:Although I could just put it up, but I feel like it's unprofessional to just put it up, as is like with all the ahs and the and we and, by the way, we all have little things we do, which I'm not going to tell you because any of you are self-conscious.
Tony D,:But we all have things we do that, I delete, so you can't hear it in the audio. She said hear it, tony, not see it. I know, but little things that we do that.
Carmen Lezeth:She wants to edit or delete. You know better than to do that. I'm sorry we're not on Facebook. I don't know what to do.
Tony D,:I'm very upset with the message, even when you're doing your clips.
Rick Costa:Throw it up there still, yeah, just put the YouTube link in.
Carmen Lezeth:Facebook. It's just annoying because they were having problems today. But you were on Facebook today, rick, with your show, right? Yeah, but you had already pre-scheduled it before they had problems, yeah.
Rick Costa:I did it last night.
Carmen Lezeth:We'll see. I'm going to email them now because I'm sick and tired of having issues with them and I want to credit All right everyone. Thank you so much for stopping by. I really appreciate you. Please stop by allaboutthejoycom. We do have swag, like this sweatshirt. Is this sweatshirt on the store? I don't think it is Actually. I don't think it's actually a cup. We have hats, we have everything. Help support the show. All about the joy, the hat, whatever. Please keep Cynthia and her family in your prayers and thoughts, and also my friend, johnny Torres and his family, because he passed away on Saturday.
Tony D,:All my condolences.
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