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Will We Ever Love Movie Theaters Again? Hollywood's Struggle and How We'd Fix It
Remember when you couldn't drive through Los Angeles without encountering film crews working on the next big production? Those days seem increasingly distant as Hollywood undergoes a seismic transformation that's reshaping not just how movies are made, but how we experience them.
The economic reality is stark. Productions have fled traditional hubs for places like Georgia and Canada, where generous tax incentives make filming significantly cheaper. This exodus leaves behind empty studios, unemployed crew members, and communities that once benefited from industry spending. Even schools that hosted craft services have seen donations dry up, revealing how deeply the industry's health affects local economies.
Meanwhile, the theater experience itself faces unprecedented challenges. With ticket prices soaring ($15-24 per person) and concessions adding substantially more, a family outing easily costs $100. When the same content appears on streaming platforms within weeks, many viewers simply opt to wait. This convenience comes at a cost, though – we've lost the communal joy of experiencing stories together. From "Who Shot J.R.?" to passionate post-Black Panther discussions, those shared cultural moments created connections that streaming's personalized schedules can't replicate.
Industry biases persist as well. Quality films like "G20" starring Viola Davis go directly to streaming despite their theatrical potential, while marketing for original content often pales compared to franchise installments. Yet there's hope in filmmakers like Ryan Coogler, whose "Sinners" demonstrates the enduring power of original storytelling.
What would bring you back to theaters? Is it possible to recapture the magic of communal viewing in a streaming world? Join our conversation about finding joy in cinema, however you choose to watch it – because embracing quality storytelling remains essential, whether on the big screen or your living room TV.
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Hey everyone, welcome to All About the Joy. The private lounge In the house is Cynthia Rick Mario Alma. How you guys doing Hello?
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez:I'm doing.
Alma Dawson:Okay, I'm loving the shirt. I am, oh, thank you. Yes, I'm on spring break, so I'm doing great.
Carmen Lezeth:Oh, okay, cool, cool. I see, like the mellowness, the mellowness. So I wanted to talk a little bit about your thoughts on Hollywood and the changes that are happening. I know that you guys, alma and Mario, live here, so you probably have noticed there's not a lot of filming going around at all, like there was a time when you would go anywhere and there would be film crews or whatever. Like every you would drive, there'd be traffic and you would know so-and-so was filming or whatever. It would just be kind of cool. But I haven't seen that in a long time. And we had the strikes writers, actor strikes but even before that Hollywood was changing a bit right Because of the streaming services. So I just wanted to get your initial opinions on Hollywood and then we could get down into the nitty gritty of what you think the problems might be.
Maurio Dawson:They suck. No, I'm just joking. No, you know what, Like you said, living here, especially where we live. You saw film you mentioned. You see film crews everywhere. I did see one film crew over here in Santa Monica, off Bundy, just this past week. A lot of the actors and directors are really pushing for film and television to come back to Los Angeles because a lot of people are losing their jobs here Now, mind you, Georgia and Las Vegas and Nevada. They're giving a lot of tax credits and incentives to come to their states and people like Tyler Perry, who have built large stages and making big strides for Black artists and directors and producers, which is great for them, and he has an amazing studio there where Marvel has taken all their filming and that's a big chunk of a lot of media cinema right now.
Carmen Lezeth:Well, a lot of cinema also is being filmed overseas. Yeah, that's kind of the other part of it too, like Canada, you know anything made it on Hallmark, by the way, is all in Canada yeah. London overseas. Yeah, Even all in Canada, London overseas.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez:Even here in Boston, like last year, we used to see a lot of trucks and trailers. You always see the signs on the crew and set up this way and crew this way, and I haven't seen any in a while.
Rick Costa:There's a lot in Canada, though. Isn't there Like Stargate? Wasn't that in Canada?
Carmen Lezeth:Oh yeah, that's been going on for a long, long time, yeah in a while.
Alma Dawson:It's a lot in Canada, though, isn't it Like Stargate?
Carmen Lezeth:wasn't that in Canada? Oh, yeah, there's. Yeah, that's been going on for a long, long time. Yeah, I mean right, it was always like another, like I always say that because when you're like an avid fan of Stargate SG1, they always come through the wormhole or whatever, it is no different angle of the same forest.
Alma Dawson:For me, the way that I've noticed it is, a lot of the film crews tend to like to use the schools for craft services and to use their parking lots and things like that, or to film school scenes, you know, even in the schools. So we would get a lot of that traffic and then we'd get like a donation at the end so they would rent it through the city of la la films or whatever that's who does all the contracts and all of that stuff. But then at the end the film, you know, the actual company, would do a donation to the school for hosting them.
Carmen Lezeth:For people who don't know what craft services is. It's how everyone on a crew gets food. It's how they get to eat. Sorry, I just want to make sure, because not everybody knows the lingo.
Alma Dawson:That's how that's how we've noticed, because a lot of those donations have dried up because there's not a lot of filming going on. So then you know, it is a trickle. You know, like I said, trickle down, it really does trickle down because even though you would see them filming in the communities and you're like, oh, they're just using that house, no, they actually, you know, use the, the schools, any places, the parks, sometimes it's at the churches, sometimes it's at the schools. It just, you know, it all depends, and then in the end, they also go ahead and do a donation to wherever it is.
Carmen Lezeth:And the reason why it matters too is because if you're filming in San Francisco or you're filming anywhere in you know, chino Hills or something, the whole crew will stay there. They'll have dinner there, they'll you know, maybe they'll grab a movie when they have, you know, a nighttime off or something. So all the businesses end up losing out too, all the restaurants, you know, all the other little places in whatever place they're in. And I know that Gavin Newsom, the governor of California, is trying to get the legislation to add some more tax incentives. But I think I want to bring it down to us. As you know, someone asked me the other day what would it take to get you back into the movie theater? And I'm like Mara and Alma, I'm like I go to the movie theater, I love being in the movie theater. But what they meant was why aren't people going to the movie theaters anymore? And I think it's a combination of things, but I wanted to know what maybe you guys thought, rick.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez:Cynthia, honestly, I think ever since COVID, you know, a lot of people kind of social distance themselves and now it's like they're like, oh well, if I can stream it at home, I pay, you know, $15, $20 to go to the movies. I can see it in my own house and be comfortable and not have to worry about getting sick from anybody else.
Carmen Lezeth:That's interesting. Was it happening before COVID? I don't even remember. Yeah, streaming was already happening, but it just hadn't taken off like it did, like during COVID. Yeah, I don't even remember.
Rick Costa:One big thing is a lot of people complain it's so expensive.
Maurio Dawson:I'm not going. You're hungry.
Rick Costa:No, you're already paying all this money for the ticket, and now you won't. No, it's expensive. If you have a family, that's even worse. The more kids you have, the more you spend Like $100 for one night. I'm like, oh my God.
Carmen Lezeth:That's not even an exaggeration.
Rick Costa:No, I have friends with families. They're like it's $100 when you go to booths. But I think one other issue is too many remakes. Give me something new and original. Snow White bombed. Sorry, but they did not do well. How about the remakes?
Maurio Dawson:Come up with new original stuff.
Carmen Lezeth:Well, Sinners is a brand new movie.
Maurio Dawson:Yes, it is Top to bottom Written and directed 100% Rotten Tomatoes, and it is getting critical acclaim, even though it is considered a horror movie.
Carmen Lezeth:I'm not going to see it, but I support it, but I support it.
Maurio Dawson:But they're saying there's so many subplots to the film that you have to see it in the theater people always say.
Carmen Lezeth:People always say I want something new and fresh, but and then they don't go to the movie.
Maurio Dawson:And then I'm gonna see it but he did something really great and it's doing really well so far this weekend have you guys seen it already? I have no desire.
Carmen Lezeth:Oh yeah, I know yeah yeah, I'm interested because I mean, I think that's the part thing, the the thing that's really important is he's been promoting it. He's been on tiktok, he's been on all these interviews, he's been talking about it, he's been showing, and someone sent us on linkedin they said I'm gonna go see this just because he's showing um kind of I forget what it's called, but the background, how he does it.
Maurio Dawson:Yes.
Carmen Lezeth:Like how he's filming it or whatever. So he's showing all these other parts. That's making people really intrigued to the making.
Alma Dawson:That's what I'm trying to come up with. I'm going to go see it, but it has to be daytime when I walk out.
Carmen Lezeth:I'm not going to go see it until you guys tell me how scary it is, then I'll go, because you know I'm like no, no, it's not my genre, but I want to support it.
Rick Costa:Ryan Coogler right, he's the one that made that thing, and Michael B Jordan you don't know who he is, you know who he is. Not everybody knows who he is. Oh my.
Carmen Lezeth:God, I thought you were quite I was about to kick.
Rick Costa:Rick knows who Ryan Coogler is. I mean, if I didn't know who he was, duh.
Carmen Lezeth:Did you hear how he said it? He said is it Ryan Coogler?
Maurio Dawson:Sorry, I had a little hot flash For those who are listening, who don't know. Ryan Coogler directed Black Panther Fruitvale Station well, actually all the Black Panther films, but he did Creed with Michael B Jordan, so he I didn't even realize that, that I did not know that before.
Carmen Lezeth:During Black Panther I found out. I did not know that at all.
Rick Costa:Yeah, they have a long history. Did he do Get Out too? No, he did not. No, that was Jordan Peele.
Maurio Dawson:That was.
Rick Costa:Jordan Peele oh, that's right.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, I think it'll be interesting. I actually think the changes to Hollywood is something that can't be stopped. I think part this is just my opinion. I think this idea that they can force people to go back into the theaters and not be in their home theaters, you know, is kind of a I don't know like a bulldozer that's that everyone's trying to jump in front of you know, and complaining about it, and I'm like I think you're going to have to make it important for me to go to the movie theater Not just me, because I'm an avid moviegoer, but people who never used.
Carmen Lezeth:And you have to make it cheaper, you have to make it accessible, like, I think here's a great example. I used to go to the Bay theater, which is here in the Palisades, one of my favorite theaters to go to. But every time you go there you have to find parking, and it's not that easy to find parking in the Palisades, you know. But they do have kind of this, um, you know, like one of these big, huge parking things and you pay like five bucks or whatever. That's not normal in most places, you know. But that's another addition. It's not just the food or whatever, it's also finding parking and not making it easy so you don't have to walk 10 blocks, you know. So I think they have to make it a whole different experience.
Maurio Dawson:But just to go to a matinee was. I went to the matinee by myself and it was $15 for a matinee and I was like wait, and then if you go for an evening show, you're talking about $23 to $24.
Carmen Lezeth:Just for one person.
Maurio Dawson:For one person I'm having fun until nighttime.
Alma Dawson:That's not the dine-in.
Rick Costa:That's not even the dine-in. If you want to do the dine-in, that's another $10 to $15.
Alma Dawson:Right, right, yeah, dine-in If you want to do the dine-in, that's another $10, $15.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez:Right, wow, there you go. That's why people watch it at home, they're like I'm going to cook a meal and I'm going to eat it in front of my TV and be comfortable for free.
Alma Dawson:How about I can Uber eat the meal and still be cheaper, watching it from home.
Maurio Dawson:How about I pay that same $20 to stream it and have a whole house full of people who can watch it?
Carmen Lezeth:Yep, Yep, that's the thing too. That's for real. And now that the movies come out, you know they're. They're on screen for a week and then they're on streaming the week after.
Rick Costa:That's kind of dumb on their part, like they should make it exclusive to the theater only for a longer period of time, exactly before it used to be in the movie theaters.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez:For what like three, four months before? You would even get it on pay-per-view, right that's because it had legs, right.
Carmen Lezeth:so that's part of that industry thing that people were going in to see them. If nobody's going into the movie theater to see the movie, they're trying to do like straight to video, right? You remember back in the day that movies that would go straight to video because they would fall in front of whatever. So it's kind of the same thing Like if the box office. So I used to work for this guy, paul Garabedian all they do is box office numbers and he's a pretty big deal now, right, and I mean he always was. But it's just so funny. I said we used to work for that mean guy, but all they do is box office numbers and it's kind of interesting to see his charts and everything that he does all the time and how he talks about the movie industry and what's happening with the box office numbers. But that's what happens, cynthia. If they put out a movie and it doesn't have legs, they put it on streaming because they know you'll watch it on streaming because you've already paid your subscription.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez:Right. You know, so or you've watched everything on Netflix already. You're like, oh, let me just watch this low budget movie. You know see what this is about type of thing.
Alma Dawson:I was going to say we just watched. What was it? G20?
Maurio Dawson:Yes.
Alma Dawson:And we watched it on streaming. It's Viola, oh Viola.
Maurio Dawson:Davis Good it was excellent.
Alma Dawson:We were like we would have watched this at the movies.
Maurio Dawson:I would have gone to the movies to see that.
Carmen Lezeth:Where is it on? What streaming is it on?
Maurio Dawson:Amazon Prime.
Carmen Lezeth:I don't have that either now.
Maurio Dawson:What's it called? It's called G20 with Viola Davis.
Rick Costa:Anthony.
Maurio Dawson:Anderson Marseille, martin Okay, with Viola Davis. Anthony Anderson Marseille, martin Okay the gentleman.
Carmen Lezeth:She's the president, or something right?
Maurio Dawson:Yes, she is the president and he's the first gentleman. But, rick, do you watch the Boys? Okay, the gentleman who plays Homelander.
Rick Costa:Okay, yeah, anthony Starr.
Maurio Dawson:Yes, he is the villain in this story. He's a great villain. You know he plays a great villain, so it's a great storyline. It was. It was good.
Carmen Lezeth:So I wonder why it was on Prime and not promoted, as Because you just said something that's really important. You're like I would have seen this in the movie theater.
Alma Dawson:I rarely hear anybody say that the storyline was good, it was action, it was suspenseful. I was like, oh, this was really good.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez:Yeah that's another thing that they do, though, but they make things just for Prime, or just for Hulu, just for Paramount. Instead of putting it out in the movie theater to see how it does, they just put it directly, just on the streaming sites.
Maurio Dawson:Can I be perfectly honest. They didn't put it in a movie theater because there's a Black woman who was a lead and I'm going to be perfectly honest.
Rick Costa:And a president and I got to meet her. She was like a female black Rambo. She is.
Maurio Dawson:She's a superhero she basically that sounds just like Viola Davis.
Carmen Lezeth:Anyways, I just want to say she is badass.
Maurio Dawson:Yeah, I love her she kicked ass and took names and her back. It was a fully developed backstory for her character as a president is it just a movie or is it a series? It's just a movie or is it a series? It's just a movie.
Alma Dawson:That's horrible, it was really really well made.
Maurio Dawson:It was really good and it's number one on Prime. That doesn't surprise me.
Carmen Lezeth:But what surprised me is what you said, because I know you're right. I don't want to live in that world, but you're right, it's the reality. That is so sad, because I trust your judgment when like I'm, I'm gonna see it. Um, I'll pay for it and see it. I just feel like you said something before that struck me, that I've never heard someone say I would watch that in the movie theater. I have never heard someone say that when they're watching it on their own home theaters.
Maurio Dawson:You know yeah, it was that.
Carmen Lezeth:It was that good that is so sad that racism is just continuously prevalent. But I think you're right. I don't think people would have gone to the movie theater now. They would have if it was denzel. Right, people would have gone to see a movie if it was denzel opening it no, not like, not, not for this and not because he's the president.
Maurio Dawson:I, absolutely I don't agree because of the social climate we're in right now. I think the time oh, you mean because of the social climate, when, right now, yeah, I think if if it came out three years ago, okay, it would have done well. I think it would have done well. But I think that I think it was a it was a political move to do it that way, and that's kind of like what we're doing in the film industry as well. Film industry has politics underneath it as well.
Carmen Lezeth:Everything does.
Maurio Dawson:Yeah, and I'm not trying to bring it to politics, but I'm talking about we can do it no, no, I don't want to.
Maurio Dawson:We're in the private room you can say whatever you want it's, but in the private room you can see it's dollars and cents. It's really about dollars and cents and it's just about what makes sense to the industry in the moment. Um, and I understand they really want to recover because we're not making the hollywood is not making the same type of money they used to they're never going to make the kind of money they used to never, things have changed, that's yeah, that's my whole point.
Carmen Lezeth:Like I, you know, I'm sad. You know, to me viola davis is star power personified. You know, like I would think anything that she does you would go and see in the movie theater you know like wouldn't even question it and uh, yeah, that just makes me sad.
Rick Costa:I was going to say, unless the theaters in Hollywood figures out what they need to do to adapt, they're going to become blockbuster video Blockbusters. No, we're not going to do streaming. Imagine if they went into that they would have been so rich. But they're like no, we're not doing that.
Maurio Dawson:Well, now you're gone yeah, I had to say, um, the other thing with, uh, ryan coogler with this movie he he shopped his film around. He didn't go with disney and, even though he's worked with marvel and stuff like that in the past, warner Brothers was the only studio that gave him full proprietorship of his material in terms of getting it back, like after it, after it does his rounds, all of that stuff goes back to him Cause they were the only studio that was willing to give him his own material back. Everybody else wanted to take it from him. Yeah, you can write or produce it, but we're going to own it. Warner Brothers was the only one to say no, it's yours, we'll work as a distributor for your film, get our money back, get your money, but you own it. And that's important nowadays.
Carmen Lezeth:I mean it's important and I agree with you. I think that's part of the problem, right. It's like so back in the day and I'm not defending the studios, but I'm saying back in the day the studios owned things, so they promoted things and they even had stars attached to their studios so you would see the same star over and over and over again in the same movies. It's kind of like in a way I'm not comparing the two, but if you notice, if you watch any hallmark movies right there, they have the same stars in the same. It's the same show over and over and over again, but people watch it and it's the same stars because those stars are attached to that network and they in the way it's kind of old hollywood way. So I think you know there's that problem with it too. I hope he succeeds and I think he will thank god.
Maurio Dawson:I mean I hope he does I'm sure to what extent um I might just buy a ticket and not go see it, but just to support it.
Carmen Lezeth:Oh you, don't like horror films. I don't like horror, but there's things I won't. I just go see it, but just to support it, oh, you don't like horror films.
Maurio Dawson:I don't like horror, I just want to go see it.
Carmen Lezeth:Look at Alma Alma's like I will be seeing that movie.
Rick Costa:It's all in her face. You buy it for Cynthia's theater, and then there you go.
Maurio Dawson:I'll buy your ticket, Cynthia, and I'll send it to you Wait, wait, wait.
Carmen Lezeth:She's going to go anyway, so we want to support him. So we have to buy the ticket anyways.
Maurio Dawson:I'll buy one ticket. I'll buy somebody's ticket. They can bring friends.
Carmen Lezeth:They can bring friends right. I just yeah. What about the audience influencing Hollywood? Or is Hollywood dictating what audiences want? So earlier you guys were talking about I think it was Rick who was saying something about, you know, repetitive movies that are sequels or whatever, right?
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez:I think Hollywood is kind of deciding, because now it's like Disney is a good example, you have the Lion King, you have Snow White and they're doing all these live actions. They're just remaking the same movie, just in a live action, and some of them are good, some of them are not. And same with horror movies. Horror movies now are not the same as before. You know what's going to happen. I know Carmen hates horror movies. I'm not saying it weird. You kind of already know what's going to happen in each horror movie. You know like it's like nothing.
Carmen Lezeth:nothing is new but do you have? Do you seek new?
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez:like there's so many indie films nobody watches yeah, that is true, that is true, but I think they're not marketed?
Carmen Lezeth:I think they're not marketed well, like if you want me to see something I need to know it's out there.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez:Absolutely yeah. It's like when we watch, like all these golden globes and Oscars and stuff like that and they talk about all these international films, it's like where do they play on? Who saw them? Everybody but us.
Carmen Lezeth:Exactly. And then they send you the, the, the DVDs or CDs or all the those so that we can stream them. And then I have to sit and watch like nine stupid films, you know, half of them with subtitles. And I say stupid because that's the worst way to watch it in a rush, because you have to vote. You know what I mean. Like that's the worst way to watch a film. And where am I doing it? On my computer or on my little TV, not in the movie theater. Or on my little TV, not in the movie theater. You know, I was having a conversation with somebody the other day. I think I told Rick this too. I think it would be a great idea, and he came up with this idea, not me. He said would you go into the movie theaters and watch like old school movies that you haven't seen in a long time in the movie theaters, like in Indiana Jones or Star Wars or whatever?
Alma Dawson:I'm going to have to do it tomorrow, oh when are you?
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez:going to go see it.
Alma Dawson:Pride and Prejudice. It's like their 20th anniversary. I'm going into the theater to go watch it.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez:Yeah, it's a good movie.
Maurio Dawson:Not after watching it 25 times.
Carmen Lezeth:Time pieces. Time period pieces.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez:I know what I do in them.
Carmen Lezeth:I'm not trying to take away from it.
Alma Dawson:And we went to go see Purple Rain. I made him go see White Christmas with me. You know just all of the, so we do do that.
Carmen Lezeth:We will go see right so he was saying what if they did like a huge, big, you know, like they, they promoted it too, like there's going to be would people go back to them? I'm like you got to do something, because if you want the theaters to survive, well, you have to market it to us and let us know. You know, know, I think part of the problem is is the reason why we don't see indie films. I never hear and I live here, I'm in the industry I never hear about these indie films until the nomination come out.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez:I'm even part of, like the Sony screenings and the GoFoBo screenings. So once in a while I'll get emails and say, oh you, you know you're invited to come see a screening of, let's say, sinners yeah on this day and time, like they should do that, like with you, carmen, while they send you the dvds, why don't they pick a theater and say, hey, we're going to have a screening of this movie on this day and time, so you guys can actually watch it in the theater, not at home or on your computer?
Carmen Lezeth:I'm saying, you know, countrywide. Like I'm saying if they promoted the film they said listen, like you'll see commercials, you'll see it on the bus, right, you'll see whatever that you know. I don't know whatever movie it is. Indiana Jones is going to be in the theater, blah, blah, blah blah. Or the Color Purple, whatever it is, you know, out of Africa remastered blah, blah blah. Two days or this weekend only, or something. I wonder if it would bring back. I think it would bring back Gen X people to the theaters. You know what I mean. It might do that. I thought it was a great idea. But I told him he needs to call the Academy, because the Academy is the one who owns and holds all those films. There's a reason why they're not doing it.
Maurio Dawson:They don't want to spend marketing dollars honestly Of course not.
Carmen Lezeth:But they don't want to spend money to make money. So I don't know what to tell them.
Rick Costa:I just had another idea, so I just saw a trailer for another. I think it's the third one Tron movie. I saw that Insane. But why don't, before that one comes out, put on those first two?
Alma Dawson:do you know? All the people that don't know yeah, you know how I see do that all the time. I think it's regal, regal theaters will do that all the time because I remember when it was, uh, indiana jones, when they were going to put that, the new one out, they did a whole like week of all of the old. You know lost arcs, the whole thing. You know they had a whole marathon.
Alma Dawson:You could buy the buy the whole marathon or you could pick which ones you wanted to go to before you went to go see the. The new, the new one.
Carmen Lezeth:I kind of miss it, I miss, I, I miss. I said it a million times the last time I had so much fun in a movie theater was Endgame. I've seen movies since then that I enjoyed or whatever, but Endgame it just felt like everybody was that communal feeling.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez:Into it, yes, you were an Avenger.
Carmen Lezeth:Just the crying and the whatever it's true.
Alma Dawson:That's what it was like when we went to go see Black Panther Same thing Everyone was here. It was so good.
Maurio Dawson:Cheering.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez:That's what we're talking about, and not to bring up horror movies again. You can bring up horror movies. You just can't force me and Mario to go see them. But the movie Halloween Like there are so many versions of Halloween, but I've seen them in the movie theaters and it's like anytime you see Jamie Lee Curtis, come on, you hear everybody clapping Like she's about to kick ass. You know what I mean. Like it's that whole like community know what I mean.
Carmen Lezeth:It's that whole community feeling. I didn't realize Jamie Lee Curtis was in those movies.
Alma Dawson:Yeah.
Maurio Dawson:She's the OG screen queen. I can't.
Carmen Lezeth:She's the one in the movie. I didn't know. I've never seen them. Why would I know?
Maurio Dawson:You know who else is in that movie.
Alma Dawson:For anyone who can't see I roll my eyes as a kid, I'm sorry, what, mario.
Carmen Lezeth:I couldn't hear you because Alma was dissing me with her eyes.
Maurio Dawson:Kyle Richards, kyle Richards from Housewives and all that shit. Oh yeah, yeah yeah. She's the original kid with Jamie Lee Curtis in the original Halloween film. I, the original kid with Jamie Lee.
Carmen Lezeth:Curtis in the original Halloween. I've never. I'm telling you, the other day I was watching a rerun of something and and it got me mad because this is one thing I don't like they put really horrible horror commercials, trailers in between, like I'm watching the fucking golden girls, and then there's like some horror thing coming on or whatever in between, promoting some scary thing or whatever, and I just I like turn it mute, I walk away. I am really like chicken shit or whatever you want to call it. I don't like anything horror. Oh my god, you know.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez:I'm just saying her mom was in one of the movies with her yeah. Jamie Lee Curtis' mother, yeah, who played in Psycho. Yeah, you know her sister-in-law, jennifer her.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, yeah, who played in Psycho? Yeah.
Maurio Dawson:Jennifer Jason Leigh.
Carmen Lezeth:I had to see Psycho in film school, but I really didn't watch it.
Maurio Dawson:She's like royalty. Jennifer Jason Leigh is her mom, not Jennifer Jason Leigh, janet Leigh, janet Leigh and Tony Curtis.
Carmen Lezeth:I know who she is. What's his name? Tony Curtis from back in the day. Right, that's her father.
Alma Dawson:But I just I've never seen Halloween that makes me think of a question.
Rick Costa:Now, compared to like even 25 years ago, does the term movie star carry the same weight that it used to?
Carmen Lezeth:me it does. I live here, so I don't know why people I don't know about movie star the same weight that it used to me it does. So I live here, so I don't know why people so mad about movie star.
Alma Dawson:I think it's more celebrity now. It's not really, but there are some movie stars yeah, right yeah, because denzel is a movie star.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah yeah, yeah, viola davis is a movie star. No, I do. I, I think there was. I mean, I think there is a, there's celebrity, and I don't think there's anything wrong with either one of those terminologies. I know people. I think what's getting confusing, or what's making it harder, is, first of all, all the negativity in this country about anything to do with people who have any fame is weird, like we want to blame everything on rich people. We always want to blame it on the wrong rich people. You know what I mean? Um, and then the other thing I'll say is I think content creation, right, the content creation world, which is different from hollywood, right, which is like the. What's his name, mr? What's the? What's the guy's name?
Carmen Lezeth:I can't remember his name oh, the one that's the he's, he's, yeah, you know what I'm talking about anyway, all the content creators who are big you're talking about, mr beast.
Carmen Lezeth:Right, right, I'm really having a head fart in the I can't remember, but all of them, you know, like there's all this weird kind of like you become instantly famous on tiktok or youtube or whatever and that's muddying the waters. But to me I still think there's Hollywood royalty. And you know, movie star, I don't know, I still have that dream of the. You know, I see certain people, like you said, denzel, viola Davis, I think, meryl Streep, I think it was old school people. You know what I mean? Old school, what's her name? Who's in? Uh, the? I think she's lovely selena gomez, is that her name?
Maurio Dawson:uh, yeah, um, you know, I think she's a movie star, but I see her as a celebrity because she's celebrity. I see her on tv, then movie star.
Carmen Lezeth:I don't see movie star right, well, I, I was just gonna say, like I see up and coming, like this possible sendaya, I see people who have this possibility. You know what I mean Because they're talented. Ariana Grande, like we could. Like I see possibilities in their talent and the way in which they present themselves. And you know, like I, I see all that. So I'm just saying I think it's still there. I think we're losing a lot in society because we're very skeptical and negative and blaming and we don't. You know, I'm not trying to say it, but we don't have a lot of joy anymore.
Maurio Dawson:So I think, celebrities. They lost their mystique because of social media and because of TMZs and all the gossip. Well, the gossip rags used to do this. They've always been there, but it was more mystique because you didn't know for sure.
Carmen Lezeth:You weren't positive. Now you can double check.
Maurio Dawson:So it's like, hmm, and it gave you fodder for conversation. You know what I'm saying, but but like you just didn't know, like the doris days and in in all of those people, even way back when jay, different time. Yeah, jimmy stewart's, the charlton charleston, charleston, heston yeah, and they just and that's a legend and the thing,
Alma Dawson:is that they knew. I will say they knew their role. They knew when they came out of their house they presented themselves a certain way, you know, and now it's like, oh, whatever, they come out in their sweats and their whatever. They look like a hot mess Doing, you know.
Maurio Dawson:A hot boiling mess.
Alma Dawson:Yes, so it's definitely you know.
Carmen Lezeth:It's also just a different time. I mean, I agree with you Like we've lost a lot of that in just our world in general. Like I can't remember the last time I put on a suit to go to work I don't you know what I mean. Like when you just said sweats, I'm like I wore sweats today Into the office, you know. But yeah, so, and again I agree with you, I miss the old school Hollywood. But when I see somebody like Zendaya, am I saying her name right? I feel like I'm saying it wrong.
Maurio Dawson:Zendaya.
Carmen Lezeth:Zendaya, right, I'm doing the Teresa thing, which is like saying it in Spanish. We know somebody that every time she meets somebody like somehow their name becomes Spanish, even if they're not. It's cute, it's cute.
Rick Costa:Do you do the?
Carmen Lezeth:same thing, but yeah, like I see all the possibilities and the elegance and maybe that's what it is. Hollywood celebrities, you know, now become not just a given just because you're in the movie. Celebrities, you know, now become not just a given just because you're in the movie, um, but now it really is more of a rarity, you know. And maybe the rest of just celebrities, you know, like there's the hollywood fanfare and then there's, you know, that was one of my questions- they used to have media training and they used to have um training about how you present.
Maurio Dawson:Like I'm gonna say, how you present yourself when you go out in public. You had a script, you stuck to it and you know. And then you go in the house and mind your business.
Carmen Lezeth:You know and and then people would talk about you behind your back, right.
Maurio Dawson:But that was fine, because you didn't know for sure.
Carmen Lezeth:But then there were. So there were pros and cons to that right. So I'm going to push back a little bit, because then you had things like people having to hide themselves from who they really were, like rock hudson or right or you.
Maurio Dawson:You couldn't be who you were but the backlash of that also backed into. Then you have the britney spears.
Alma Dawson:Yeah, I think it's fun too much the other way, where, oh, we want to see them as real people, we want to know that they're real people, we want to know that they're real people, we want to know that they're relatable, that they're approachable, that they're this. So then it went all the way the other way and it's never kind of, you know, it's not ever going to self-correct itself.
Carmen Lezeth:No, it's not, Because it's part of our society. Now, it's the way we all are. So, man, tomorrow I'm going to get up and wear a nice suit to the office because I'm feeling good.
Alma Dawson:I want a selfie, I do Wow.
Carmen Lezeth:Do you wear suits when you go to the office?
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez:No, I'm just saying it's been a long time I wear yoga pants and a T-shirt. Really, really.
Alma Dawson:Okay, well, I'm not that bad.
Carmen Lezeth:Really Okay? Well, I'm not that bad. The schools is just being, you know, presentable for the children. Nothing, you know that's going to be. They're not wearing like little tassels and like a thong right.
Alma Dawson:But I mean, I think the only place they really have a, a dress code, is at the main offices, at the main headquarters, I'll say People in banks still dress up.
Maurio Dawson:Still, If you walk into a bank, which is very rare that you do that- I know right. I was just going to say that, yeah, but when I do, because I have a mother who still likes to do it old school so I have to go on the daycare. But even when you go in the tellers and the managers, they're all still Monday through Thursday. They're going to have a tie on, they're going to have trousers, they're going to have a blazer. They might not have a tie on, but they will have everything else on.
Carmen Lezeth:Maybe we need to bring it back.
Maurio Dawson:No, I'm good.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, me, neither everything else. Maybe we need to bring it back. No, I'm good. Yeah, I mean somebody said that about playing.
Alma Dawson:They were like people used to dress up to get on a plane like you used to smoke on a plane too, and I'm good with that yeah, no, and I would tell you now, because of all the you know, especially if you're in a union, if they want to have a dress code, then they have to give you an allowance. I like that. So then it's you know. So it's all dollars and cents again Again.
Carmen Lezeth:Yes, that's so sad. I'm going to dress up in a suit tomorrow. Actually, I do have a big lunch date tomorrow, so I'm going to be dressed up anyway.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez:Yeah, look at you and be like what's wrong with you, carmen?
Carmen Lezeth:I don't dress bad, I guess I don't, I mean I don't really. I guess I don't. I always wear nice slacks, but I always have on a t-shirt forever, a really nice t-shirt but a t-shirt and I have the same. Sorry we're talking about this, but I do have like I have like 20 black t-shirts. They're all the same. I wear them all the time. It's just easier.
Alma Dawson:That happened because of COVID, remember you didn't have to get on your Zoom. The Simon Powell of All About the Joy.
Carmen Lezeth:Is that what he does? Oh, shoot.
Alma Dawson:Oh, I got to change it. Now that's going to be your nickname. Nobody's happening.
Rick Costa:I noticed that with some podcasters. At first I didn't pick it up. Not that dude wears the same color shirt every single time.
Carmen Lezeth:I do it on purpose. I do it so that I don't have to first of all be worried about it, and it happened during COVID. You'd have to be on all these Zoom calls with all these different people all day long, and then you realize, like you know what? I'm just going to wear the same shirt. And then I was like okay, I can't be wearing the same shirt, so I just bought.
Carmen Lezeth:So it was just you know, because then you have people who would just dress like halfway, and then they would get up and they'd have on shorts or Yep.
Maurio Dawson:Or no pants at all. Okay.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, well, now we're going into a whole other avenue.
Alma Dawson:We're veering away from the topic now.
Carmen Lezeth:That's okay, it goes where it's going to go. Yeah, let me see if I have any other. Do you think streaming services are hurting movies in Hollywood? I think, they're hurting TV maybe I don't know.
Maurio Dawson:I think they're hurting television but not movies, because if you're going to go to the movies, you're going to go to the movies. But streaming. I'm here for streaming for reality stuff and a good series because, like elma and I are stuck right now on the wheel of time so good.
Carmen Lezeth:What's the wheel of time? Where's it's like?
Alma Dawson:sci-fi fantasy yeah no but where is it streaming?
Carmen Lezeth:Prime.
Alma Dawson:So good.
Maurio Dawson:And I'm stuck. I'm stuck on stupid because I'm right there. I'm like wait, we're in the middle of season two.
Carmen Lezeth:How many seasons does it have? Three so far. Is it a new show?
Maurio Dawson:It's relatively new, I'm just catching that.
Carmen Lezeth:Rick, have you already seen it?
Rick Costa:I just started season two. So, you're right, I'm busy watching. This Is Us.
Carmen Lezeth:That was worth every minute Wait did you finish? This Is Us.
Rick Costa:I'm on the fourth season.
Carmen Lezeth:You gotta get faster. So I have a question. So I have a question.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez:So, with streaming, do you prefer the entire season to come out all at once or do you prefer it to be like two episodes? Wait till next week. One episode, you know.
Alma Dawson:I like it when they do chunks, so they'll put out like two or three, and then you wait, and then they'll put out like two or three, and then you wait, and then they'll put out another two or three, and then you know, I like it that way.
Maurio Dawson:But if they won't do it that way, if they're making me wait week to week, then I will wait until they're all out and then I'll watch it, so you know it depends on the show, Cause, like I'm watching daredevil, like they give you first, they gave you the first two and then they pulled me. Because I'm watching Daredevil, they give you the first two and then they pull me in and I'm waiting for the next week. So I'm going right back because I got through the first two. I'm like, okay, now I've got to find out what's going on now. So yeah, it just depends.
Carmen Lezeth:See story matters. Story matters yeah the story really matters and the characters really need to connect with people, and I think that's the other part of it. No-transcript, none of us need to go see that movie. We know what's going to happen. We all none of us need to go see that movie.
Carmen Lezeth:We know what's going to happen right right, but it was, it's the characters or whatever and get connected to it and you want to be the hero, you want to be the person that's in the know. I think what I miss with all of this kind of binge watching type of thing is and you already know what I'm going to say because we've talked about it before is you used to watch an episode and talk about it, and then the following week it would come out, and so, for the children who are listening to our show, possibly, we used to have three channels NBC, abc and CBS. You'd have PBS and whatever the other channels were.
Carmen Lezeth:If you watch Spanish channels, you have the Spanish channel Right the Spanish channel but you would watch like everybody collectively would pretty much watch the same things, especially if they were popular and you'd go the next week Like I remember X-Files, that was a big deal. Oh my gosh, I love X-Files. Oh my gosh, yes, oh, my gosh Now. I think, it's kind of horror like some of it is because I was in love with that. What's happening? I am old, oh yeah. No, I've always hated horror.
Alma Dawson:I've been saying that is not horror. Do you not see the gray hair? Do you see mine? But that is not horror okay let me okay wait, let's talk.
Carmen Lezeth:Okay, we're gonna have an argument there are. We're gonna have our we need to have an argument, because that will bring people in. So here it is what I loved about x-files. First of all, I was in love with david ducovny. I'm just gonna say it straight up.
Rick Costa:I knew it but I did.
Carmen Lezeth:I loved him so because I I used to watch him on twin peaks I don't know if you ever watched it, okay. And then he was on X-Files and I loved it and I love the kind of whole sci-fi part of it. You know, I love the whole deep throat-esque thing, blah, blah, blah. What I didn't like was some of the horror. I'm calling them horror. Do you remember? It sticks in my head. Do you remember the brothers that lived in the house? And there was the one under the bed on that roller thing and he was like that's horror. That's still in my head to this day. It's been like 30 years. It's still in my head. That is horror. So they had moments and then they had those satanic ones. Remember when people yeah, that's what I'm saying. So they had sections of it, alma, that were horror. Yes, mario, I never want you to watch those because I understand the sense you had to go see the movies with me.
Alma Dawson:No, I didn't the movies weren't horror, though the movies were not.
Maurio Dawson:I respectfully decline. It was not me.
Carmen Lezeth:Okay, but the movies aren't horror. The movies are not horror.
Maurio Dawson:I don't like it. No, that's not my horror.
Carmen Lezeth:I don't like it. You didn't like X-Files.
Maurio Dawson:No, that's not my jam. I remember I was in college when it was coming on and I used to hear the theme song and it irritated me and I just left the room. It's good just the horror episodes are bad, I'm okay.
Carmen Lezeth:Because there's a difference between suspense and the horror part.
Rick Costa:No, I'm good, I'll put my two cents in. Mostly weird, very alien-ish a lot of times, but there were some gross stuff that seemed horror-esque.
Carmen Lezeth:I'm going to do it this way.
Alma Dawson:Alma, alma.
Maurio Dawson:I saw gore and gook.
Carmen Lezeth:There was gore and gook in some of those. I walked by the TV and I'm like I'm not and Gook. There was Gore and Gook in some of those.
Maurio Dawson:I walked by the TV and I'm like I'm not watching this shit. I kept walking.
Carmen Lezeth:But a lot of the show is really about the kind of alien idea of the government hiding it, yeah, but no, it's not the same it's suspenseful, it's suspenseful, it's suspenseful. There's a difference, but there are horror episodes. Thank you, rick.
Alma Dawson:I appreciate you.
Rick Costa:I think what I liked most was the dynamic between Scully and Mulder Character driven Good writing.
Carmen Lezeth:Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it was good. It was kind of like Twilight Zone in a lot of ways. There was a lot of kind of interesting because you could watch some standalone episodes. So like it was like Twilight Zone, suspenseful, interesting, made you think you know it was kind of like Black Mirror, like sort of no, not really. I don't know if you would say like Black Mirror, would you? It's a little bit more well Black Mirror.
Maurio Dawson:it gives me Twilight Zone feels and vibes too, but I think X-Files is more sanitized than Black Mirror.
Carmen Lezeth:Do you know what I mean? It's a little bit easier to take. It also was like 1996 we're talking about. You know what I mean? I don't even know if that was the exact year, but it was like 93, 94.
Carmen Lezeth:93, 94. Yeah, so, but yeah, I think, I mean, look, I think the movies are easy, because the reason why the movies I thought were not well done at all is because they tried to explain it to the general public, whereas the rest of us had already seen everything. We didn't need an explanation. And see, I didn't need an explanation, exactly.
Maurio Dawson:And see, I didn't like the show, so therefore I was not interested in the films I was like I'm good.
Carmen Lezeth:So, Mario, did you not like X-Files? I'm not sure we got that clarity.
Maurio Dawson:It was my favorite show. I could not miss an episode. I'll never I have to go binge watch it again because I loved it so much. Oh my God.
Rick Costa:And they tried to do a spinoff and it totally bombed.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez:Of X-Files? Yeah, I think so.
Rick Costa:I think so. No, the movies were not that great.
Carmen Lezeth:I don't know, there wasn't a spinoff of X-Files Really. I think there was.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez:I would have never even bothered which, clearly, why are we doing this again? I can't even leave you for that. That was really good don't encourage him I know right that was good.
Carmen Lezeth:The y file, no, look. I think what we're kind of really saying is that story and character matter and that we will go to the movie theater and we will watch it on streaming if it's good. And part of the problem is we're not marketing the good stuff or the things that maybe we should be seeing, which are indie films, because indie films don't have marketing budgets because, they're not usually supported by the studios, no, and lower pricing of tickets.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez:I don't think that's going to happen.
Carmen Lezeth:It's kind of saying you want lower ticket prices at Disney. That's never going to happen either. We're here now.
Rick Costa:Well, now it's like we're in a catch-22 because not as many people. We need to make more money to make up for not as many people. So how can they do that?
Carmen Lezeth:Well, you know where movie theaters make most of their money, right, it's not from the ticket sale. It's the food Concession which is weird. Yeah, that's where they make their money. It's kind of like when you go to a restaurant Most restaurants, doesn't matter which one it is. They don't make their money off the food, they make money off the wine. You buy, the liquor.
Maurio Dawson:Well, and now they're serving alcohol at AMC. Shout out to AMC for the liquor.
Carmen Lezeth:I only go to the movie theaters when I have to see a movie in the theater. I will go see his movie. No, I won't, because you guys have to tell me about how bad it is horror-wise.
Maurio Dawson:Yeah.
Carmen Lezeth:Sinners, yeah, sinners, yeah, I would go see it because of him, or any black movie I'll go see in the movie theater because I want to support. It's true, sorry, yeah, I'm really bummed. What you said about the viola davis thing, though, in this movie.
Maurio Dawson:Did you ever? Did you go? I don't know I watched. Did you ever watch the document documentary about movie?
Carmen Lezeth:No.
Maurio Dawson:You have to go and take the time to watch that documentary MoviePass. I don't remember you guys. Back in the day we used to get the little. It used to look like a little credit card and you can go to the movies. And this was before we had Stubs Club and all that stuff. You could use your MoviePass at any movie theater to buy your ticket for less value, for a cheaper cost.
Alma Dawson:Actually, we would pay $10 a month. And you could go to a movie. It was levels, so $10 a month. You could go once a week any movie, any time. It didn't have to be a matinee, whatever it could be first run, whatever, and you would just swipe your card and go to the movie.
Maurio Dawson:So okay go ahead and it went under. But it was started by two black men and it was then. It was then stolen and now he's trying to get it back and it's a great story of what streaming, how really streaming kind of started. They really are kind of the catalyst, but they had a great strategy, bad planning and they became millionaires on stock market and lost it all because it was stolen from them. And I really suggest anyone really take a look at the documentary. It's called Movie Pass the documentary and it was very insightful, not only about streaming, about these memberships, and also about marketing and the film business and how they were kind of they just didn't think it through, but it was the start of something great but just didn't have the right foundation, if that's the best way to say it.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez:Yeah, it reminds me of a movie called Founder. It's on Netflix and it's about McDonald's and how it started with two brothers and it was stolen from them.
Maurio Dawson:Same thing with movies, yeah, so take a listen or take a watch.
Carmen Lezeth:I'm so sad. Now that's your topic, ma'am. No, no, no, no. Well, I didn't think we'd solve the problem, but it just bums me out. You know, racism seems to seep through into so many, into every part of our lives, and it just. You know. It's hard to find joy in that. You know, and I know we don't want to talk about it, but that's part of what's happening.
Maurio Dawson:The joy is go to the movies. Support Ryan Coogler. That's part of what's happening.
Alma Dawson:The joy is go to the movies. Support.
Maurio Dawson:And support and try to get these films back in California.
Carmen Lezeth:Gavin Newsom has to. I mean, that's why he's working on that right.
Maurio Dawson:He's trying.
Carmen Lezeth:We have to have tax incentives. I don't understand why that wasn't, why we wouldn't do that anyways. But you know, if it's cheaper for me to make something in another state, I'm going to go make it in another state, right, you know? So we have to have the tax incentives here and he's working on it, and so you want to make sure that you support legislators who are supporting that. But yeah, go to the movies.
Rick Costa:Oh, you know what To answer a question. Cynthia asked earlier about binging or not, or weekly. For me, if it's something that I know nobody I know is going to watch I'm not going to talk about, but nobody, I definitely going to binge. I'd rather binge it because I'm not going to talk about it with. But if it's something people can we talk about a lot, then yeah, I'd rather watch week to week, because then you have to let it breathe a little bit, talk about it, think about it, see your eyes I missed.
Carmen Lezeth:I missed that part of our lives. Though I know this is how I know I'm old, I really do miss like watching a show in the next day at work with your friends, and when you pick up the phone you're like did you see what happened?
Alma Dawson:I'm not talking about that. And don't miss it, don't be late, don't forget to record it.
Carmen Lezeth:And everybody else is talking about it. You remember who shot JR that whole time?
Maurio Dawson:We had to wait for months, for months.
Rick Costa:I remember one place I worked at. They had a cafeteria and everybody went to the cafeteria before they started working. It was a cool place. I would get to the table where most of my people were and I'd sit down. Let me guess You're talking about the Sopranos.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez:Yes.
Carmen Lezeth:Yes.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez:Sopranos.
Carmen Lezeth:Yes, I mean, I do miss it and think that's why we're all so isolated. It's not just social media, it's just everything we do is so solitary. There's no communal. The thing about movies that's great is that you do go into a theater with strangers and you enjoy something together, and there's something just uniquely beautiful about that. What about with your?
Maurio Dawson:friends and then having dinner and talking about it afterwards, because that's the thing we used to love to do Like a group of us. We would all say, hey, you want to go to the movies and go to dinner, or yeah, it was always movie and then dinner. We'd do an early movie, enjoy the movie and go to have dinner and talk about the movie and then laugh and catch up about everything else you've been. We don't do that. Our friends don't do that either, but we still have our friend group, but it's just not the same the last time I did that which was really fun was after.
Carmen Lezeth:Black Panther, too was like this kind of we all got together just talking, oh, you couldn't have shut. I mean I'm glad I went and saw Black Panther, first by myself, then I went and saw it with Juliana, and then I went and saw it with a whole bunch of Black friends. So you know those are three different experiences, very different experiences.
Maurio Dawson:Yes, I remember our friends. They all went and dressed up to go to see Black Panther.
Carmen Lezeth:I didn't do that, but that's nice.
Maurio Dawson:Yeah, they all had their African garb on their kente claws all that stuff and they were all ready, and you know, I didn't do all of that. I didn't do all that either, but I appreciate it. I appreciated it too, yeah especially on social media.
Carmen Lezeth:You can just like Amazing yeah. Yeah Well, all right. Well, thank you so much, guys. I appreciate you guys hanging out in the private lounge and that was fun. I'm not sure we fixed anything, but maybe we gave people some hope and some homework.
Maurio Dawson:We solved world hunger tonight. You did that, we did that, we did. We solved world hunger. We fed some people, we started a conversation.
Carmen Lezeth:That's right, of course we did. We did the big things.
Maurio Dawson:We did the big things. We threw up some water tonight, it was great I was going to say, find the joy, however you watch your content.
Carmen Lezeth:Oh, I love this for us. Okay, thank you everyone. Good night everyone, and remember, at the end of the day, it really is all about the joy, all about the joy.
Cynthia Ruiz Lopez:Bye.
Carmen Lezeth:Bye. Thanks for stopping by. All About the Joy Be better and stay beautiful. Folks. Have a sweet day.